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    Quote Originally Posted by duece71 View Post
    Ok. In Aliens, no mention about a derelict space ship being found by the colonists doing the terraforming on LV426. Did the xenomorphs find the colonists? I remember something about Ripley saying that Burke knew about the ship and actually sent colonists to investigate....
    Deleted scene from the theatrical version included in the director's cut where we meet Newt for the first time, her parents were surveyors that were tasked with finding the source of the signal. Remember Ripley and her crew were redirected to LV-426 in the original film AFTER the corporation detected a signal emanating from that particular moon. Love the line where her mom scolds her for playing in the air ducts lol . . .


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    That is a cool deleted scene but I still like the theatrical version when the Marines show up and no one knows what happened, including us viewers.

    I've watched the 4 hour "making of Aliens" which is pretty cool too. The APC was an old airport tug that they modified.
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    Why the hell do they cut scenes that actually make the plot work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    Why the hell do they cut scenes that actually make the plot work?
    To make room for more explosions and car chases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    To make room for more explosions and car chases.
    Steyr pretty much nailed the short answer.
    Also, some cuts were made because the deleted scenes were determined to slow the pace, or distract from the plot line. The footage was added as director's cuts or special editions for the real fans to view later and get more in depth with the movies. For the mainstream in-theater experience the viewers were expected to just want the action and blood and guts and suspense.

    Here's a reference for scenes cut from Alien.
    https://onthescreenreviews.com/2013/...om-alien-1979/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-gnARR View Post
    Steyr pretty much nailed the short answer.
    Also, some cuts were made because the deleted scenes were determined to slow the pace, or distract from the plot line. The footage was added as director's cuts or special editions for the real fans to view later and get more in depth with the movies. For the mainstream in-theater experience the viewers were expected to just want the action and blood and guts and suspense.

    Here's a reference for scenes cut from Alien.
    https://onthescreenreviews.com/2013/...om-alien-1979/
    I agree mostly with the article especially with Lambert's long death scene being cut short and the longer ending would've killed the pace.

    Also the extended intro to Aliens where Newt's dad walks into the ship and gets attacked by the face hugger is too much like the original Alien intro. It kills the suspense of what's actually happening on LV426 before the Marines arrive. It's another example of a stupid guy walking into an alien ship and playing with a huge egg not knowing what in the hell he's messing with. I mean, he's living on a freaking space moon for Pete's sake. It's like the farther in the future you go the more stupid humans get.

    Now in the Prometheus extras there's a long clip of a young Weyland speaking to a crowd and a video of Shaw explaining her and Holloway's findings and asking Weyland to fund the mission IIRC. I don't think cutting those scenes really detracted that much but I also think it would've been fine to include them.

    But leaving out the scene of the Engineers in robes giving the potion to the other one to drink was a big mistake. That scene made no sense to me until I saw the extended clip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waylander View Post
    But leaving out the scene of the Engineers in robes giving the potion to the other one to drink was a big mistake. That scene made no sense to me until I saw the extended clip.
    Agreed. For me it totally changes the movie.
    I tried to paste a link relevant to the deleted scenes in Aliens but I guess it didn't show up (iPhone is hard to cut/paste/quote sometimes) but one of the big criticisms of the part w/ Newts family was that the viewer felt every bump in that long ride to the derelict ship. It's almost as if the viewer were reliving childhood road trips, stuck for hours on end, waiting for the promise of the fun and action, wondering if it was ever going to happen. It totally destroyed the pace of the Marines in action, which is what made the movie so awesome.

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    So . . .

    ********* Fair warning, major SPOILER ALERT below *********










    Okay so if you're still reading photos have been leaked from the June issue of Empire showing the Engineers homeworld, David 8 standing on the ramp of the Juggernaut he and Dr. Shaw commandeered , and bombarding the Engineers with the vessels containing the black ooze.

    Pics at bottom of link to scroll through.
    http://www.avpgalaxy.net/2017/04/15/...rticle-images/


    For some reason it's not on YouTube but there was some footage released in Vegas at CinemaCon that showed the bombardment of the Engineer home world. Linked is a video of an international TV spot with the footage.


    http://screenrant.com/alien-covenant...pot-engineers/





    So I gather the movie is going to start off with David 8 who probably killed Dr. Shaw (so I doubt will see her in this installment) and bombed the home world of the Engineers. Then fast forward to the Covenant crew disembarking on orders of the Weyland corporation years later. They arrive as colonists and find a paradise world now inhabited by David 8, Xenomorphs, the new Neomorphs, and "Protomorphs".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moose-Knuckle View Post
    Deleted scene from the theatrical version included in the director's cut where we meet Newt for the first time, her parents were surveyors that were tasked with finding the source of the signal. Remember Ripley and her crew were redirected to LV-426 in the original film AFTER the corporation detected a signal emanating from that particular moon. Love the line where her mom scolds her for playing in the air ducts lol . . .


    Hmmmm, that looks like a pretty important sequence to edit out. The father must have been referenced later by bishop as the guy that they tried to remove the face hugger from and the father dies as a result. Thanks for finding this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Co-gnARR View Post
    Agreed. For me it totally changes the movie.
    I tried to paste a link relevant to the deleted scenes in Aliens but I guess it didn't show up (iPhone is hard to cut/paste/quote sometimes) but one of the big criticisms of the part w/ Newts family was that the viewer felt every bump in that long ride to the derelict ship. It's almost as if the viewer were reliving childhood road trips, stuck for hours on end, waiting for the promise of the fun and action, wondering if it was ever going to happen. It totally destroyed the pace of the Marines in action, which is what made the movie so awesome.
    Agreed, but it helped with the background plot and history of what happened. Bishop may have referenced the father. See my above post.

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