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It will be interesting to see if Trump can spin this as "Obama administration approves wiretap of Trump campaign weeks before election" and make it stick. Kind of a tricky needle to thread, but the optics at first blush aren't good. Could work if done artfully ("artful" not always being a hallmark of this administration).
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I think it's time for Sessions to open criminal investigations on the DNC for collusion against Bernie in the primaries, and the Clinton Foundation for election racketeering. The Dems have proven they're never going to let losing the election go, so the best defense is a strong offense. Hammer time!
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Trump really needs to stop tweeting.
Ok, I've got an El Camino full of rampage here, so what's the plan?If you can't win a gun fight against a lightly-trained individual during broad daylight with 88 rounds of 30-06, I'm not sure you'd be able to do it with... any other firearm.
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I was talking to old girl about this today.
He's not a stupid guy. He is kind of brash, but he isn't an idiot.
Whys he doing it? What's his objective?
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The real story is if BHO let foreign allies do the dirty work......
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Yep. It could be a powerful tool if used wisely, but sadly he just comes across as a whining teenager that just got grounded.
Ok, I've got an El Camino full of rampage here, so what's the plan?If you can't win a gun fight against a lightly-trained individual during broad daylight with 88 rounds of 30-06, I'm not sure you'd be able to do it with... any other firearm.
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Even if it is a FISA court-ordered wiretap, does anyone here trust the supposed integrity of the system anymore? Meaning at the time Obama controlled the "apparatus" of government, and any "official" acts need to be questioned. Seeing the politics that have come into play with such previously unquestioned agencies like NSA/CIA/FBI, I certainly WOULD raise an eyebrow even if it was done under the auspices of a FISA order.
Put it another way......why would anyone nowadays do a "private" bugging operation when Nixon's fate is still a relatively fresh memory? Hell, if you control the government (as Obama had for the previous 8 years) and had your peeps firmly and deeply entrenched all over the bureaucracy, why not do it "officially" under the guise of "national security"?
While I was a child and didn't follow things like I do as an adult, the old 1960's "questioning of authority" is coming back in spades these days, and deservedly so.
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Yep. It's all going to be about how Trump can spin it. He certainly isn't going to get any help from the media, and now he has awakened Obama on the subject.
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