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Thread: 4 9mm loads- Given a choice..which one?

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    After reading this thread I want to buy MEN, but I do have experience with winchester NATO and speer lawman. I didn't chrono either load but they both ran 100% in my glock 19. I have always heard that the military spec'd 9mm NATO to be a very spicy 9mm. Definitely can tell the difference between NATO and something weak like regular 115 white box. Speer law man is supposed to be loaded to the same pressures as their comparable grains in gold dot, to facilitate training costs and POI without running through pricey gold dots. I know they make +P cause I bought some 200gr +P when I had a 45.
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    Speer Lawman.
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    I have found no difference in power/recoil in these rounds.

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    Speer Lawman is clean and reliable, just loaded slightly on the light side. Great training ammo.

    Not as much a fan of Winchester or Blazer

    I've never use the MEN so I cannot comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    Im presently about to re-stock up on 9mm ammo.
    This ammo will NOT be for everyday carry/self defense...I have plenty of that.
    This ammo will be for training/practice/SHTF/rainy day ect. ect.
    I want full power..as close to +P or NATO spec as possible.
    Ive narrowed down to the following 4:
    1. MEN 9mm 124gr FMJ
    2. Blazer Brass 124gr FMJ
    3. Speer Lawman 124.gr. FMJ
    4. Winchester NATO 124gr. FMJ.

    Which of these would you choose to load up on for reasons given..and why?
    Also- is the Speer Lawman load in 9mm and other calibers, a hotter load in terms of FPS than other FMJ range type ammo?
    Any other suggestions that meet my criteria welcomed.
    Winchester NATO 124gr. FMJ

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    Which one? MEN.

    If asked to rank them:
    1- MEN
    2- Speer
    3- Winchester
    4- Blazer
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    A friend I shoot with got some MEN 124 gr and thought it was dirtier than most of what he has been shooting. I don't know what the other was. he was happy with it otherwise.
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    I’d buy a box of each, try it in my gun(s) to see which round was accurate and shot POA/POI. Then buy case quantity of the winner.
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