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Thread: 4 9mm loads- Given a choice..which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kain View Post
    Of the list, I'd probably say the MEN would be the first choice. After that, for overall quality I would be inclined to give the nod to the Speer over Winchester. The blazer I'd personally put at the bottom. That said, I am not sure if the Speer 9mm is going to be hotter than just standard pressure opposed to NATO, which the Win and MEN ammo should be running at, though not having chronoed the stuff I cannot say with utmost certainty and only having shot the NATO ammo next to standard US manufactured ammo and finding the recoil to be a tad bit brisker.

    Also, OP, another option to consider would be S&B. I have shot the stuff for years, and have always favored it for training, and it was definitely loaded hotter than most domestic manufacturer ball. I know my Beretta loves the stuff. Not sure if the MEN might not be better ammo than the S&B, but it is an option and prices on it have been pretty good lately like under $200 before shipping.
    FYI- Just found a youtube video with chrono info on the S&B 124gr FMJ..its running 1104fps out of a 5" barrel.
    The Winchester NATO load is running about 1207 or so out of same. This is a +P load for all intents.
    I appreciate all responses...I think Ill get the MEN after all is said n done.
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    MEN is a TRUE 124gr NATO spec. The German ammo makes ALL use ammo manufacturers look like crap.


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    MEN is a TRUE 124gr NATO spec. The German ammo makes ALL use ammo manufacturers look like crap.


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    What about the new S&B surplus/overrun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    What about the new S&B surplus/overrun?

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    Depends on the version. S&B has two different ones. One is to NATO pressure and one isn't.


    This is the standard: http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=MEN9B


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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Depends on the version. S&B has two different ones. One is to NATO pressure and one isn't.


    This is the standard: http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=MEN9B


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    This one


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arik View Post
    This one
    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5f42da6292.jpg

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    We have the same ammo in stock. It is NOT NATO pressured. I have the e-mail from the factory stating as such.


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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    MEN is a TRUE 124gr NATO spec. The German ammo makes ALL use ammo manufacturers look like crap.


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    FYI:
    Glock 19 10 rounds MEN 124gr FMJ NATO
    HI: 1085
    LOW: 1040
    ES: 45fps
    AVE: 1068

    Glock 17 124gr FMJ NATO
    HI: 1104
    LOW: 1069
    ES: 35fps
    AVE: 1085
    Shot a few hundred that day out of both guns. 100% reliable and EXTREMELY accurate in both. Cleanest, shiniest, brightest ammo I ever did see. I think they've got some old ladies polishing every round before it leaves the factory.
    Maybe not.
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    Speer Lawman has worked well for me and a few others I know and shoot with.

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