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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    And most of them were part of an actual investigation where they were compromised by CI's or facilitated into believing they were part of an action plan by investigating agencies. And that is kind of my point, we could do the same thing with people who are becoming radicalized but haven't actually committed a crime yet.
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    Have they not done that with some already? I assume their lawyer will scream entrapment, but it seems to me they are only giving the person enough rope hang themselves. Now the poor business man who has a women ask him back to his room for a romp for some $$ at the bar, then shows up to be arrested, that seems clearly entrapment, but seems to pass muster in courts, so wadda I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Have they not done that with some already? I assume their lawyer will scream entrapment, but it seems to me they are only giving the person enough rope hang themselves. Now the poor business man who has a women ask him back to his room for a romp for some $$ at the bar, then shows up to be arrested, that seems clearly entrapment, but seems to pass muster in courts, so wadda I know.
    Some, but not enough. And they really don't seem to put the same effort into the guys who do actual big things even though opportunity was there. Hell the Russians warned us about Tsarnaev guy and we looked into and found nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    I'm also not naive enough to believe that PC asshattery keeps all of our LEO from being as effective against Islamic terrorism as they should be.
    There has been a TON of PC asshattery going on for the last 8 years in the US. Database scrubbing, "hands off" lists, "sensitivity" masking their true motives, internet video protest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Some, but not enough. And they really don't seem to put the same effort into the guys who do actual big things even though opportunity was there. Hell the Russians warned us about Tsarnaev guy and we looked into and found nothing.
    This. How many "no go" islamic enclaves are in the us where they have active para-military drills being conducted?

    The Orlando nightclub shooter had a coworker report him for racist, homophobic, and violent rhetoric and nothing was done because of political correctness. Same for the San Bernardino shooters, CA LE even knew him by name over the radio (per released transcripts) so they knew who he was from tips/prior investigations but didn't act because he was muslim of Middle East descent.
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