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    Quote Originally Posted by PattonWasRight View Post
    Dang, you are blowing me away with your knowledge! I was skeptical as heck but thought hey, the guy was right before. Sure enough, that indeed was available!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_Gar...ial_production
    LOL. Knowledge of Z grade knockoffs isn't necessarily knowledge except for knowing what to avoid. Full disclosure I've been a FFL/ SOT since 1999 and was collecting WWII / WWI guns since the 4th grade, got my first Garand in high school. But it's not like I can quote serial number ranges and lot numbers from Scott Duffs books off the top of my head.

    Next time I'm in the back of one of my safes, I'll pull my 80,000 serial range Springfield and take some pics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    LOL. Knowledge of Z grade knockoffs isn't necessarily knowledge except for knowing what to avoid. Full disclosure I've been a FFL/ SOT since 1999 and was collecting WWII / WWI guns since the 4th grade, got my first Garand in high school. But it's not like I can quote serial number ranges and lot numbers from Scott Duffs books off the top of my head.

    Next time I'm in the back of one of my safes, I'll pull my 80,000 serial range Springfield and take some pics.
    Please do! You've got a lot of great background. There are some crazy Garand guru's around to be sure .... serial number ranges, heat lot codes, rebuild stamps ... human encyclopedias.
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    Mine is a Century build... PB and Springfield parts, pretty much a new Danish VAR barrel, built on a Lithgow cast receiver.

    Now, before I hear about the grenade they supposedly are, the receiver is in spec. Sent the rifle to Shuff, and he went over the entire gun. Confirmed it was good, and had him do a new stock and refinish the entire rifle. Original stock was cheap, with a cracked hand guard.

    Originally picked it up, figuring the receiver was garbage... but the parts and barrel were worth the price I got it for. While Fulton Armory did a write up on Lithgow receivers, they had a sample size of one. Glad I took the chance, and pretty much have a brand new Garand... at an awesome price.

    I was questioning about getting an M1A, being I live in NJ (15 round magazine capacity). But picking up a Ishapore 2A1 and a Remington Model 7 in .308, figured I'd could justify one (didn't want to stock a similar round to .30-06, until I had more than one gun). I got a N/M M1A (stainless barrel, wood stock) for a little cheaper than a new one... with less than 50 rounds through it. Was an early 1990s gun, so was built with USGI parts. Very happy with it, but don't have any pictures of it.

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    If standing is the position that cost you points ( as with most people ) a good, not necessarily expensive air rifle,
    10 metre targets and thousands of repetitions sure won't hurt.
    Save the targets, write what you changed from earlier sessions on them and chart your progress.
    Keep at it long enough you will find what works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post

    Mine is a Century build... PB and Springfield parts, pretty much a new Danish VAR barrel, built on a Lithgow cast receiver.

    Now, before I hear about the grenade they supposedly are, the receiver is in spec. Sent the rifle to Shuff, and he went over the entire gun. Confirmed it was good, and had him do a new stock and refinish the entire rifle. Original stock was cheap, with a cracked hand guard.

    Originally picked it up, figuring the receiver was garbage... but the parts and barrel were worth the price I got it for. While Fulton Armory did a write up on Lithgow receivers, they had a sample size of one. Glad I took the chance, and pretty much have a brand new Garand... at an awesome price.

    I was questioning about getting an M1A, being I live in NJ (15 round magazine capacity). But picking up a Ishapore 2A1 and a Remington Model 7 in .308, figured I'd could justify one (didn't want to stock a similar round to .30-06, until I had more than one gun). I got a N/M M1A (stainless barrel, wood stock) for a little cheaper than a new one... with less than 50 rounds through it. Was an early 1990s gun, so was built with USGI parts. Very happy with it, but don't have any pictures of it.
    Shuff would know, I've long craved for one of his Mini-Gs. Pretty cool to see what looks like a brand new M1 Garand, no matter how it came to be. Those NM M1As are very tight shooters and I've chosen that versus new production in heartbeat, and even if paying a chunk more.

    Quote Originally Posted by lowprone View Post
    If standing is the position that cost you points ( as with most people ) a good, not necessarily expensive air rifle,
    10 metre targets and thousands of repetitions sure won't hurt.
    Save the targets, write what you changed from earlier sessions on them and chart your progress.
    Keep at it long enough you will find what works for you.
    Close to magic as I can get.
    Yes it is and thank you for the suggestion ... I have a bolt action air soft I got my kids that I can practice with in the basement. I can throw the wife's sand leg weights over the stock to simulate the weight Great idea, thanks again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Screwball View Post

    Mine is a Century build... PB and Springfield parts, pretty much a new Danish VAR barrel, built on a Lithgow cast receiver.
    Is it a Century build or a Century import? Century does all kinds of things from 100% imports of C&R rifles that are marked Century Arms but they did NOTHING to the rifle. Then there are Century compliance build where they import a rifle and add the necessary 922r parts to make it legal for sale. Then there are "in house" builds where they build a rifle from a parts kit and a receiver (usually one produced for Century) and there are also "outsourced builds" where they sell a CAI parts kit gun but had somebody else do the actual assembly.

    FAL rifles are a perfect example. Century imported L1A1 thumbhole stock rifles that they did nothing to except bring them in. Century did a bunch of 922r conversions of the same where they added enough US parts to make it ban compliant. And of course they did some parts kit "in house" builds. They all look kinda the same but lots of difference in terms of performance.
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    Wouldn't have been imported with the Lithgow receiver...

    From all research I've seen, they got some receivers and parts kit... and some rifles were born.

    I first had the gun shop try to say that it was a Danish build, and try to get more money because of the serial number (under 400). They were not familiar with Garands, and didn't even know what I was measuring the barrel for. Brought up the Fulton article, gave a price of the estimate of the parts, and they took it (I think they took it on trade, and nobody wanted to buy it). At the worse, would have found a USGI receiver, sent it and the rifle to Shuff, and had him build it. Still wouldn't have been that expensive... but happy that the Lithgow worked out.

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    I would suggest perfecting the offhand position, before adding the weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lowprone View Post
    I would suggest perfecting the offhand position, before adding the weight.
    That makes sense, I feel like I have decent execution in early offhand shots, am hitting okay. It's managing the weight of the rifle as I go on that is the challenge for me. My muscles get pumped and I lose the finer degree of control I need. Now that I type this, I remember someone advising to do "sets" like at the gym ... hold the rifle on black dot at home for one minute, rest for two, repeat 5-6 times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PattonWasRight View Post
    That makes sense, I feel like I have decent execution in early offhand shots, am hitting okay. It's managing the weight of the rifle as I go on that is the challenge for me. My muscles get pumped and I lose the finer degree of control I need. Now that I type this, I remember someone advising to do "sets" like at the gym ... hold the rifle on black dot at home for one minute, rest for two, repeat 5-6 times.
    Counter top wall outlets from the other side of the house. After your have 100% cleared and confirmed your rifle, see if you can hold steady on the outlet before, during and after you break the trigger.

    Then rack, rinse and repeat.
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