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Thread: Colt Combat Unit Carbine vs Sionics Patrol Rifle III

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    Colt Combat Unit Carbine vs Sionics Patrol Rifle III

    I'm considering purchasing a 16" mid-length carbine for some upcoming classes. Particularly, the two carbines mentioned in the title.

    These carbines are very similar. Both are light-weight mid-lengths with the same rail and the same furniture. Obviously the Sionics comes with MBUS Pro sight set, slightly upgraded trigger, coated bolt, and proprietary barrel contour. Meanwhile,
    Colt comes with name recognition (which may help with resale if I choose to in the future) as well as a pinned gas block.

    The Pony is available for $1040ish while the Sionics would run $1500ish and require an FFL transfer fee.

    Are there any technical differences I'm missing to justify the price difference, other than accessories? Which would you choose and why?


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    I would go for the Colt CCU. I prefer a pinned gas block. I also prefer the $460 price savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    Complete rifle from Tombstone Tactical is $1310, so a little better price point, not including shipping and transfer.
    https://www.tombstonetactical.com/ca...ee-float-rail/

    Question for OP: If the price was the same, would you still be pondering the decision? Is price the driving factor here?

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    I'd really like someone who can to shoot these rifles back to back and see which one is ported better. I've put a fair amount of roundness through Sionics barrels and would love knowing how the CCU compares.

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    I bought a CCU back in January. I too was looking at both options. I really wanted the Sionics but for some reason availability was difficult at the time. I stumbled across a CCU for $1179 and jumped on it. I have to say I'm really pleased with it. I only have about 1000 rounds through it but it's been reliable and I'm extremely happy with how accurate it is (Trijicon TA31 as the optic).


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    If price were the same I'd flip a coin


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    Quote Originally Posted by SeriousStudent View Post
    My only knock with that list is the DSA buffer tube kit I believe is not 7075, and probably has a car buffer. Granted, it is a $40-65 dollar fix. and I'd personally just stick it on a cheap lower for a beater since there are a few other things I'd be swapping for my personal preferences anyway if I was putting things together. Other than that, if I was in the market for an upper I'd be looking at that sale hard. Like really, really, hard.

    For a better break down for the OP, since he stock to the Patrol III

    https://www.westernsport.com/product...weight-barrel/

    https://www.tombstonetactical.com/ca...stripped-blem/

    https://www.westernsport.com/product...arts-kit-ambi/

    https://www.rainierarms.com/rainier-...code-sale-6698

    The Rainer stock kit also comes with an H buffer, you just need to buy a stock with it to get it at the price listed there.

    Primary Arms also has a decent sale on the Magpul Pros, though it ain't smoking.

    Rough cost would bring you up to about $1200-1300, or there abouts, which after you add sights, the Pros to the Colt would be pretty damn close unless I miss something. Going with the upper SS pointed out would save you money obviously. Of course, playing with options for LPKs, Grant has Colt ones instock last I checked, and stocks could bring you to more or less depending, as well as trigger preferences, stock preferences, ect. Also depends on if you are married to the Pros for BUIS or like others. And if you are wanting to wait on sales of other parts to try to get the most bang for your buck.

    Not sure if all that helped or just muddied the waters.
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    If we are going to do a comparison, let's at least be honest.

    Last I looked, the Colt CCU does not feature sights. The SIONICS Patrol III has MBUS Pro Sights. In addition you get the NP3 bolt carrier group. The trigger is better than a stock Colt not just IMO but in that of everyone who has tried it. You also get the Sprinco blue spring as standard.

    The preference of pinned versus set screw gac block is just that. Every single BCM upper uses the same method and people don't seem to panic about them.



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    Chris Bartocci is very knowledgeable when it comes to Colts, and he recently reviewed the CCU. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ZXkfcDrAI If the price between the two was the same, I would go with the Sionics. Being that the Colt can be found for a lot less, I'd go with the Colt and use the savings to buy a decent optic (Aimpoint PRO), or lots of ammo and range time.
    Last edited by Hammer_Man; 04-21-17 at 23:15.

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