Most durable AKM furniture ?

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

Hello,

I have been asking around for people's opinions of what the most durable AK furniture is for hard use/doomsday/etc. I

I am looking for anyone who knows of the most durable AKM furniture. I am not even considering wood. Do you think the K-var milspec stuff is as durable as russian surplus? Do you think the Magpul fixed stock is as durable as com bloc fixed plastic stocks?

[SteyrAUG]

I would just grab some combloc surplus and be done with it.

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

That's what I am leaning towards. Just waiting for a final ruling from the tribe. Most of the com bloc surplus plastic is off 74s. Any real downside to putting 74 furniture on 47?

[MountainRaven]

My understanding is that the K-Var furniture is the same polymer formulation used in Bulgaria. While it's certainly possible that the Russians have developed a stronger polymer formula than the Bulgarians, it's not likely to have resulted in anything substantially stronger - and the Bulgarians are in competition with the Russians, the Chinese, Romanians, &c. on the world market for government purchases of Kalashnikov-pattern rifles. I don't know of any way to ensure that any given order of Russian surplus polymer would be a newer formulation and not an older one that might be (slightly) inferior to a more recent Bulgarian/American formulation.

Having said that, I would give Magpul an edge - at least in the realms of pistol grips and handguards - as they've been making excellent plastic products for over a decade, now. Magpul's AK stocks are a bit of a stumbling block, though. The polymer hinge of the Zhukov is known for failing, but that AK forum has a number of reports of guys having their AK MOE stocks fail from side impacts. So if you want lightweight, I would stick with K-var stocks. If you want adjustable LOP, I'd go with Vltor's stock adaptor and put either a MOE SL or Gunfighter on it.

I would probably then give the aluminum handguards from Krebs, Troy, MI, and Zenitco an edge over the polymer handguards - although I don't think it's a huge edge.

So I would say: If you want the strongest, most bestest: Krebs handguard, Magpul pistol grip, Vltor tube (with your AR stock of choice). If you'd prefer to save some weight: Magpul handguard, Magpul pistol grip, K-Var stock. And if you'd prefer something more traditional looking, I don't think there's a meaningful difference in strength between the K-Var handguards and the Magpul handguards (or any military polymer handguards, excepting maybe East German stuff and Bakelite).

[Moose-Knuckle]

Standard E-bloc polymer furniture is all G2G.

K-VAR charges more for their US made stuff so unless you are worried about the 922r I'd just go with the imported stuff in new condition.

[Arik]

I would just grab some combloc surplus and be done with it.

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Wood or plastic. Both types have been through Doomsday in one country or another

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[MountainRaven]

That's what I am leaning towards. Just waiting for a final ruling from the tribe. Most of the com bloc surplus plastic is off 74s. Any real downside to putting 74 furniture on 47?

In the world of polymer furniture, AK-74 stuff (which is what the furniture was almost universally developed for) will fit and function 100% on an AKM. East Germany simply put their MPi-KM (AKM) polymer furniture on their MPi-AK-74Ns (AK-74s). Similarly, both Bulgarian and Russian military manufacturers use the same furniture they developed for their AK-74Ms and AR-M1s on their other caliber guns.

Wood furniture also works interchangeably on the different stamped AKs, they just might result in aesthetic anachronisms.

[eodinert]

Furniture has never been a failure point on the AK, and any likely failures won't interfere with the rifles ability to do gun stuff. Just get decent furniture, and drive on.

[SteyrAUG]

That's what I am leaning towards. Just waiting for a final ruling from the tribe. Most of the com bloc surplus plastic is off 74s. Any real downside to putting 74 furniture on 47?

Not really. The slotted buttstock used to indicate 5.45 but now they use the same buttstock on everything so it's meaningless anymore.

[BlueCorn]

Not really. The slotted buttstock used to indicate 5.45 but now they use the same buttstock on everything so it's meaningless anymore.

The slots on the AK-74 stock was never used to indicate a 5,45 rifle. That is internet myth. The slot on both sides of the AK-74 stock was to reduce weight. The final rifle was over the weight spec. so the slots along with other things was used to reduce the weight so it would be within the spec. This is from M.T. Kalashnikov himself. It can be found in several books and even one tv program where the man himself laughs at the different slot myths and then goes on to talk about weight reduction.

For doomsday, polymer is the way to go. Wood will crack, warp, split, rot etc. Surplus is the way to go but the K-VAR stuff is just as tough if you need to stay within the law, 922r.