Attack the Carl Vinson?

[Eurodriver]

Yeah, and his work-life balance is still better than yours...or so it seems...

The timing of that guys capture sure is suspect. Probably couldn't handle the hours anymore and just walked in to the Party Office with a burning picture of Mr. Kim himself.

[ST911]

Stay on topic please.

[Big A]

Perhaps step back and rethink the seeming invincibilty of any aircraftcarrier battlegroup.
Quite the opposite:
Looking at actual wargame results carriers got sunk by dieselsubs at least twice; if memory serves me by the Candian abd Dutch navy.
Quite the black eye for the navy and very much suppressed.....
Bottom line, they make for VERY hard to miss targets.

I'd give the Canadian and Dutch Navies a few more points for having better training and discipline than the NORK's. Plus , how often have the NORK's war gamed against an actual U.S. CBG?

Same with all of these anti-ship missiles that are supposed to be so fearsome that we should just park our CVN's and never leave port. It's one thing to hit a stationary barge/towed target. It's a completely different scenario when there are multiple vessels dedicated to defending the CVN in a dynamic sea battle.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take these threats seriously, but we shouldn't ignore the layers of defense that a CBG has. Plus, once the birds are launched the CVN is gonna put some distance between itself and any threats PDQ.

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[chuckman]

I'd give the Canadian and Dutch Navies a few more points for having better training and discipline than the NORK's. Plus , how often have the NORK's war gamed against an actual U.S. CBG?

Same with all of these anti-ship missiles that are supposed to be so fearsome that we should just park our CVN's and never leave port. It's one thing to hit a stationary barge/towed target. It's a completely different scenario when there are multiple vessels dedicated to defending the CVN in a dynamic sea battle.

I'm not saying we shouldn't take these threats seriously, but we shouldn't ignore the layers of defense that a CBG has. Plus, once the birds are launched the CVN is gonna put some distance between itself and any threats PDQ.

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Truth. A CBG understands it is at risk of AS missiles and takes precautions accordingly. Of the navies I would be concerned about, NK is not amongst them. I fully concede a blind squirrel gets a nut and a lucky strike is always possible.

[TAZ]

All I know is that one of the sure fire ways to get people needlessly killed is by underestimating your opponent and having a big ego. I hope the guys in charge of the CVN task force don't fall into that category. That's A LOT of lives out there.

Trying anything against the Vinson group is sure suicide for fat boy and more importantly his entire staff. Maybe, just maybe one or all f them have the balls to kill that little ****er before some bad shit happens to a lot of people.

[chuckman]

All I know is that one of the sure fire ways to get people needlessly killed is by underestimating your opponent and having a big ego. I hope the guys in charge of the CVN task force don't fall into that category. That's A LOT of lives out there.

Navy commanders tend to learn and remember lessons. I assure you they recall what happened when the Iranians ****ed with our boat a while back, and they are sticklers for procedure. So it doesn't matter to them if they are facing the Russian Navy or the Skipper and Gilligan on the S.S. Minnow, they won't underestimate NK.

[usmcvet]

An internal solution with the fat bastard dead would be out-freaking-standing.

[ABNAK]

The administration has called the entire Senate to the White House Wednesday for a briefing on North Korea.......

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...-briefing.html

[chuckman]

"You just don't see the United Nations, like, solving conflicts." Lol. The man will call a spade a spade. Love it.

[vicious_cb]

If you think the norks have a chance of sinking a CVN, Ill just leave this here.