You can shoulder arm braces. Again. (ATF arm brace reversal stuff)

[JulyAZ]

And yet the wait times for Form 4s and Form 1s continues to increase......WTF?

You probably won't notice a decrease in times at least until all the form sent in before the letter are processed, so in 9 months to a year, it'll be go time.

[Kain]

It's great to hear about this reversal. Now if they will just reverse the ruling that neoprene washers are considered suppressor parts"baffles" and are illegal to sell by Deadair Silencers.

Yeah, that would be good. Though, as an aside, I heard that you couldn't buy them, but that a number of people were just making them out of regular neoprene. Which to me, not that I agree on this, sounds like something that the ATF might have issue with. Again, not agreeing, I think the entire NFA mess is just bullshit just food for thought.

And yet the wait times for Form 4s and Form 1s continues to increase......WTF?

Maybe more people deciding to get into the NFA game? While I all for shorter wait times, I also for more people buying guns and if people are seeing the paperwork and tax hurdle of the NFA as less of a deterent to owning SBRs, SBSs, Suppressors, ect then I would consider that a good thing for our position since it increases the pressure that we have. That said, I still of the opinion that it should be something that should be streamlined as ****, if we can't do away with it.

[fledge]

It's great to hear about this reversal. Now if they will just reverse the ruling that neoprene washers are considered suppressor parts"baffles" and are illegal to sell by Deadair Silencers.

FYI:Capital Armory is selling 10 packs of these. It was on their site last week. Apparently only Dead Air got the letter...

[hdrolling]

So while researching for my AR pistol build I keep seeing that as of May 2017 that the ATF just posted a new letter saying that shoulder firing braced pistols is okay, as long as the weapon wasn't setup so that the brace is interned only to be used as a butt stock.

How official is an ATF letter, can they just send it out and it's their new policy?

[Eric D.]

Yep - official by decree rather than official by legislative process. It's official until they change their mind again. If enough people keep bothering them and asking questions about stuff that should just be taken with a grain of salt we're more likely to get a shitty outcome - that's exactly what happened when the pistol braces were coming out and everyone demanded an opinion. Most people don't know what an sbr/pistol/tax stamp is and won't bat an eye at you shouldering a pistol brace. Shoulder it to zero the weapon, test accuracy, different ammo, etc. but don't draw attention to yourself, don't abuse the concept, and be mindful of people around you and you will be fine.

[26 Inf]

A lot of the problem was that every swinging Richard around was posting videos of himself firing with his SigBrace shouldered. Don't do that. The latest ATF letter said 'incidental' I believe.

[Ostdarva]

It's so tempting to do a pistol brace build but I've been trying to stay away from it because there seems to be no clear definitive answer to the question.

[hdrolling]

It's so tempting to do a pistol brace build but I've been trying to stay away from it because there seems to be no clear definitive answer to the question.

If you do a google search there is now a ton of articles about the new change as of last month.

Also, just noticed this should have went into the AR Pistol area so if it need to moved it might help out better there?

[hotrodder636]

There was not a lot of attention drawn by the ATF until everybody kept asking for "opinion letters" and clarification on previous letters.

I had a brace until my stamps came through but I suggest if you have one don't go out of your way to ask for clarification, don't post videos of "ATF said it's okay to shoulder" then intentionally shoulder for a whole shooting session.

It has been said before, gun owners can be their own worst enemies.

If attention is not drawn, attention will not be paid...

[yoni]

Gun owners can be the biggest idiots around. As a result give the ATF about 25,000 emails asking "Did you really mean it", and the ATF will be forced to take action.