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    Help with choosing 1-4 for Recce

    I am in need of an optic for my Recce rifle. 16 inch BCM. I originally had it setup like a SPR type rifle with a 2.5-10 but I decided I wanted it to be more of a DMR than a true precision rig. Im wanting a optic for 0-500 yards on man sized steel targets. Im not looking for something to shoot the tightest groups with.

    My main players Im looking at are the Trijicon TR24 Accupoint and the Trijicon Accupower. Im having a hard time deciding.

    Ive used the Accupoint before and I am a big fan of the simplicity and durability of the tritium and fiber optic combo. I would be buying the the triangle reticle and have never shot it at ranges past 200 yards. To me it seems the Accupower reticles would be much better for longer range shots. Im looking at the segmented circle with the BDC reticle. Overall for a precision aspect it seems like the Accupower is better choice, but would give up the simplicity I really like of the TR24. What do you guys think? Am I over thinking the simplicity aspect and should just go with the better reticle? How does the triangle do at 300 to 500 yards at hitting steel?

    I know there are other options out there in the same sub 800 dollar range (le/mil pricing for the Trijicons) but Ive never really used them. Anything else I should be looking at?

    Thanks.
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    I can't speak for the Accupoint but I do own an Accupower.
    Trijicon's reticle diagram for the segmented circle BDC shows the center dot size being 3/4 MOA which is a little large for precision shooting. It seems great for closer range shooting though.

    There's a review on here if you can find it for the mil square version. The reviewer didn't like it and I agree it isn't a good option.

    I chose the MOA crosshair version because it addresses the issues I have with the other two reticles. It has fairly fast acquisition yet the crosshairs are 1/3 MOA at the center which is fairly precise for a 1-4x optic IMO.
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    I just ordered the Trijicon Accupower 1-4x w/ red segmented circle. I played the research game for a long time and ultimately decided on the Accupower due to its clarity and true 1x. I saw some pictures of it on IDPA targets in direct sunlight and while not "bright", you could still tell it was red and the illumination was on. The .75 moa dot at 500 yards is just under 4" , however I wasn't worried about that aspect because I'd be using the stadia lines/hold over on the BDC for distance shots.

    Regardless, if you order from DSG Arms with mil/leo discount it's a GREAT price. Mine will be here tomorrow I'll post some pics and an initial review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sidewaysil80 View Post
    I just ordered the Trijicon Accupower 1-4x w/ red segmented circle. I played the research game for a long time and ultimately decided on the Accupower due to its clarity and true 1x. I saw some pictures of it on IDPA targets in direct sunlight and while not "bright", you could still tell it was red and the illumination was on. The .75 moa dot at 500 yards is just under 4" , however I wasn't worried about that aspect because I'd be using the stadia lines/hold over on the BDC for distance shots.

    Regardless, if you order from DSG Arms with mil/leo discount it's a GREAT price. Mine will be here tomorrow I'll post some pics and an initial review.
    I have the same exact model and like it a lot. 1x is clear, huge eyebox, reticle never gets lost even without being turned on. Not too heavy either.

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    I ended up with an vxr patrol, but of those 2, I'd go with the accupower. Out to 300, the accupoint would probably be good, but past that I'd want a reference point. I'm sure people use the accupoint further, but I think the reticle would start to help past 300.

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    Accupower, of those options. Are you going to be satisfied with slightly less precision at 300-500 yards than your nxs gave you? I'd find it hard to step "backwards" in that way, though I do understand your reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-grunt View Post
    I am in need of an optic for my Recce rifle. 16 inch BCM. I originally had it setup like a SPR type rifle with a 2.5-10 but I decided I wanted it to be more of a DMR than a true precision rig. Im wanting a optic for 0-500 yards on man sized steel targets. Im not looking for something to shoot the tightest groups with.

    My main players Im looking at are the Trijicon TR24 Accupoint and the Trijicon Accupower. Im having a hard time deciding.

    Ive used the Accupoint before and I am a big fan of the simplicity and durability of the tritium and fiber optic combo. I would be buying the the triangle reticle and have never shot it at ranges past 200 yards. To me it seems the Accupower reticles would be much better for longer range shots. Im looking at the segmented circle with the BDC reticle. Overall for a precision aspect it seems like the Accupower is better choice, but would give up the simplicity I really like of the TR24. What do you guys think? Am I over thinking the simplicity aspect and should just go with the better reticle? How does the triangle do at 300 to 500 yards at hitting steel?

    I know there are other options out there in the same sub 800 dollar range (le/mil pricing for the Trijicons) but Ive never really used them. Anything else I should be looking at?

    Thanks.
    I have the TR24 with green triangle green german crosshair, my buddy has the segmented circle. My favorite optic is the green triangle, it's the fastest and easiest optic there is to me. I can make routine hits on steel torso at 300 all day. However if you change it to a 6inch plate that becomes more difficult. I've made hits out to 400 with the triangle but it is not guaranteed because the triangle obscures the target. I have only had the accupower out to 100 but it is not daylight bright, if you have cloud cover that day it's good, if you are shooting under an overhang into a darker area it's fine. If you want you carbine to be an all around 0-300 yd go with the triangle. If you really want to shoot out to 500 go with the MOA 1-4 accupower since it's a finer aiming point. The TR25's can be found for $900-925 on gun broker those have MIL and MOA options.

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    Does it have to be 1-4? I think I'd be considering the PST Gen 2 1-6 as an option. Also I have a Bushnell Elite Tactical 1-6.5 and I was using it to good effect a couple days ago on steel out to 500 meters. It's a bdc reticle. Mine is ffp which I'm not crazy about on a LPV but I found it to be very workable with 55 gr wolf gold and my 77gr. reloads. I wasn't shooting groups though. Both of those would fall in the same $$ range.

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    Scroll down page, it has some very good shots of the Accupower 1-4 in bright sunlight. I was surprised that the illumination didn't washout against the target at 1x in bright sunlight (albeit barely visible).

    https://pistol-forum.com/showthread....ower-1-4/page4

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