Is ATF demandiing SBR pictures from anyone else or just in Communist MD?

[TACAV]

So in MD all categories of NFA items are legal (surprisingly) however after all the liberal 2013 gun law BS in MD they made it so even SBR's and SBS's have to meet a minimum overall length requirement. *eye roll

Several factory SBR's like DD MK18's or Krinks etc all meet it. (btw both of which are still legal to buy in MD even though fullsized DI AR15s and AKM's are banned.... again *eye roll... and any other misc. gun you want to build have to meet the OAL length requirement.

Anyways I've had a couple SBR's done up since the "new" laws went into effect.

Both times even though it's not a listed requirement as far as I know to do so, the ATF examiners upon finally getting to my forms in the stack have kicked them back for review and have contacted my NFA dealers (two different ones) to send them a photograph of my build with a tape measure in the photo to prove to them that it's actually the overall length that is stated on my form 4's.

And despite the fact that those forms are signed under the penalty of perjury that all the info I put on the forms are true...

All this done in order to prove that the actual gun I am building meets the MD state SBR OAL laws. I'm not the only one that this has happened too either in MD.

The first time this happened I got my form back approved 2 weeks after my FFL sent in the photo. This time (my second build post 2013 state law changes) it's now been about a month or more and still did not hear anything back yet. NFA dealer called to check on it and he just got the generic "It's still under review." answer back.

I was just wondering if this was a new thing for only this socialist crap hole or in any other states as well.

[MegademiC]

Why would feds worry about state law? Seems wierd.

[TACAV]

Why would feds worry about state law? Seems wierd.

that's what I thought as well but since like i said, it's just not mine that got kicked back hence why I asked here.

[st381183]

You can call the NFA Branch and ask why they needed the photos. Sometimes it is a fairly benign reason and coincidental to state laws. Might put your mind at ease.

[jpmuscle]

So how do you assemble a build to take photos without unduly building an unregistered SBR?


ATF and MD both are lame...

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[TACAV]

Not me doing it, my NFA dealer who is also a manufacturer had to do it if it matters.

but yea... lame.

[Rayrevolver]

First I have heard of it. What barrel length did you put on the F1?

My 9" makes the min length with a Vltor A5 and Magpul STR+buttpad.

And no way to make an MP5k meet it outside of a perm suppressor.

[TACAV]

First I have heard of it. What barrel length did you put on the F1?

My 9" makes the min length with a Vltor A5 and Magpul STR+buttpad.

And no way to make an MP5k meet it outside of a perm suppressor.

29" which is the MD state minimum. I got an after market stock adapter which makes my sig MPX pistol long enough.

[RHINOWSO]

Why would feds worry about state law? Seems wierd.

They do. Back when you also needed permission to take NFA into LA, they kicked back 5320.20s asking for proof you had it.

ATF also cares a great deal about local zoning regulations for FFLs.

[MegademiC]

They do. Back when you also needed permission to take NFA into LA, they kicked back 5320.20s asking for proof you had it.

ATF also cares a great deal about local zoning regulations for FFLs.

Interesting. I always thought it was "burden on you" to comply with state laws. I'm sure it is by the book, but I'm suprised they look at it at all. Thanks for the info.