SHEPARD SMITH STREAMING: Reports of possible explosion at Ariana Grande concert in UK

[SteyrAUG]

Modern international terrorism didn't begin until the late 1960s.

Untrue, modern international terrorism probably began with the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946 by Palestinian Jews who were trying to drive out their British landlords. Things got progressively worse from there.

Of course there were lots of killings and murders going back to the 1920s and many of them could qualify as terrorist attacks. In 1929 Palestinian riots incited by arabs resulted in the deaths of 249 people, few people today even know that ever happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tory_Palestine

Hard to say who got the party started but we could probably go back a couple thousand years pointing fingers.

[Honu]

modern terrorism ? is just a time frame of terroism happening but terrorism been going on since the start of islam

terrorism ? violence against civilians for political reasons

remember muhammad was a politician turned warrior
and islam is a political movement more than a religion ! and while religion has its place they have there own laws etc..

what is muhammed sitting with his 12 year old bride watching jews being beheaded and the heads put into a pile for people to see !

if that is not terrorism what is ?


so middle east was Christian and the Muslims killed and destroyed pretty much all Christians throughout all of the middle east and this was over 1000 years ago !!
look at the spread through 100s of years of them terrorizing the world and even if we go up to the birth of our country they were still doing what they did in the 600-700s !
and why again they would even terrorize a young USA at the time !

so even before modern it was happening by muslims and has not stopped for over 1000 years !

I think the guy is trolling !

[Sam]

Not trying to be funny but until two days ago I didn't know what an ariana grande was, I really thought it sounded like some kind of overpriced coffee drink.

As for the attack focusing on the children and younger adults, I'm surprised that the savages has not targeted a school yet. But I feel it's coming.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Not trying to be funny but until two days ago I didn't know what an ariana grande was, I really thought it sounded like some kind of overpriced coffee drink.

As for the attack focusing on the children and younger adults, I'm surprised that the savages has not targeted a hereschool yet. But I feel it's coming.

I get terror as a tactic. You wear down a population and increase transaction costs. When these guys target the most innocent of the innocent, what exactly is their aim? "Let's kill some of their kids, that will convince them that our way is the right way to go." Just pure retribution for our actions against them? Like they can't fathom that we can dish out at 10,000:1 ratios if we wanted?

Target a school, kill some kids, take hostages and go out in a blaze of gunfire? I really don't know what Trump would do.

[TAZ]

Modern terrorism didn't begin until the late 1960's is like saying modern communications began in the age of the internet and so nobody communicated until that point.

Terrorism has been around since the beginning of time. No bombs, pressure cookers... Maybe not so much in the USA due to distance more that the benevolence of the terrorists. Think back to the Middle Ages, crusades. Vlad the Impaler didn't just go nuts. He was reacting to Muslim invaders terrorizing, raping, pillaging Transylvania. Christianity and Islam have been killing each other for thousands of years. The 2 are not compatible.

The only changes to terrorism has been technological improvements and improvements in travel around the planet. One group doesn't have to walk a zillion miles to kill the other.
And one group (for the most part) has decided to not go on killing rampages around the globe cause they are offended.

[scooter22]

I get terror as a tactic. You wear down a population and increase transaction costs. When these guys target the most innocent of the innocent, what exactly is their aim? "Let's kill some of their kids, that will convince them that our way is the right way to go." Just pure retribution for our actions against them? Like they can't fathom that we can dish out at 10,000:1 ratios if we wanted?

Target a school, kill some kids, take hostages and go out in a blaze of gunfire? I really don't know what Trump would do.

I was told a story by a contractor friend of mine about a bomber who blew up a nursery school of Muslim children in Afghanistan.

[Auto426]

MOAB, MOAB, MOAB, MOAB.

I was watching a few Vietnam movies this weekend, and after hearing the news of the attach in Manchester it occurred to me that maybe we should bring back napalm.

[TAZ]

I get terror as a tactic. You wear down a population and increase transaction costs. When these guys target the most innocent of the innocent, what exactly is their aim? "Let's kill some of their kids, that will convince them that our way is the right way to go." Just pure retribution for our actions against them? Like they can't fathom that we can dish out at 10,000:1 ratios if we wanted?

Target a school, kill some kids, take hostages and go out in a blaze of gunfire? I really don't know what Trump would do.

Wait: a person is willing to blow themselves up in the name of religion, but you're expecting them to make logical decisions about target selection. These people are nucking futs. There is no logic behind what they do.

The fact of the matter is that we can't dish out 10:1 kill ratio much less that 10k:1. We DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS for that kind of war anymore. Gone are the days of bombing an entire city into rubble cause it has a Messerschmidt factory in it. Hell we refuse to enter a Mosque that we KNOW has combatants and supplies in it cause we don't want to offend anyone.

They KNOW that the West has chosen to tie its hands and are exploiting it. Hopefully our perspectives change, but I'm not holding my breath.

[docsherm]

Untrue, modern international terrorism probably began with the bombing of the King David Hotel in 1946 by Palestinian Jews who were trying to drive out their British landlords. Things got progressively worse from there.

Of course there were lots of killings and murders going back to the 1920s and many of them could qualify as terrorist attacks. In 1929 Palestinian riots incited by arabs resulted in the deaths of 249 people, few people today even know that ever happened.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tory_Palestine

Hard to say who got the party started but we could probably go back a couple thousand years pointing fingers.

If you go by the wave theory of Terrorism that Rapoport came up with (which most in the industry use) the fourth and current wave of terrorism started in 1979 with the Iranian revolution.

It is an interesting read: http://international.ucla.edu/media/...-Terrorism.pdf

[Averageman]

Wait: a person is willing to blow themselves up in the name of religion, but you're expecting them to make logical decisions about target selection. These people are nucking futs. There is no logic behind what they do.

The fact of the matter is that we can't dish out 10:1 kill ratio much less that 10k:1. We DO NOT HAVE THE GUTS for that kind of war anymore. Gone are the days of bombing an entire city into rubble cause it has a Messerschmidt factory in it. Hell we refuse to enter a Mosque that we KNOW has combatants and supplies in it cause we don't want to offend anyone.

They KNOW that the West has chosen to tie its hands and are exploiting it. Hopefully our perspectives change, but I'm not holding my breath.

This;
I learned a new word today, the word is Horrorism, the terrorists ramp up the horror until it holds the people hostage to the shear fear, pictures and the spectacle of it.
We are held immobile and unwilling to move like deer in the headlights.
Until we decide to regress a bit as a society and take the gloves off we will be held hostage to terror and horror.