I prefer a nice mil dot, but for shooting out to 600 yards, those BDC reticle work pretty darn well. If you learn the reticle and your ammo, you may hold a little high or little low and be GTG.

I always zero at furthest distance then consider if my gun is zero'd at 50-100-200 or whatever.

I also wish the vortex was mil turrets , which it isn't. Again, we are talking cheap stuff. I might give that 1-8 strike a chance. Wonder if which of those sub $500 scopes is the best.

Mark just finished up a Colt 6720 ( I think -pencil barrel ) with RISII, A5, SSA, KNIGHTS AMBI, ......mount brake for my Sig Ti cans. I was thinking of tossing that bugger on it trying CQB with some 600 yards dinks

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