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View Poll Results: Accuracy Consensus of a Factory AK (7.62x39)

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  • Under 2 MOA

    5 8.77%
  • 2-3 MOA

    27 47.37%
  • 3-4 MOA

    11 19.30%
  • 4-6 MOA

    14 24.56%
  • 6-8 MOA

    0 0%
  • Over 8 MOA

    0 0%
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Thread: Accuracy Consensus of an AK (7.62x39)

  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fjallhrafn View Post
    The assault rifle wasn't Schmeisser's concept: The concept dates to 1918 in the German military and it was the Waffenamt that propsed the original concept that became the MKb42(W) (which Schmeisser did not devise) and the MKb42(H) (which he did help develop).

    The cartridge wasn't his, having been previously developed in 1940/41 for the MKb concept.

    Even the StG-44/45 wasn't entirely his: The Waffenamt required the MP43 incorporate features of the MKb42(W), like the fire control group and firing from a closed bolt.

    The only part of the concept that was wholly Schmeisser's was the stamped steel construction.

    So, yeah, beyond the presence of a stamped steel receiver, I'd say Schmeisser's influence was probably pretty minimal.
    So the Stg44/43 incorporated a bolt design from another firearm. I guess that means Stoner didn't design the AR-10/M-16 series since it used a Ljungman bolt. And yes, it was built upon previous ideas just as the Luger and even the P-38 were derivatives of the Borschardt.

    But that doesn't mean Schmeisser wasn't the designer of the Stg44/45 just as Stoner was the designer of the AR-10/M-16 series. Seesh. Who do you think was the primary designer of Stg44/45?

    Also you seem to be missing a huge part, only the prototype AK-47s had stamped receivers, the production rifles had milled receivers, they weren't stamped until the AKM which came AFTER Schmeisser had died.
    Last edited by SteyrAUG; 06-17-17 at 21:46.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    AK's are fine accuracy wise from the better manufacturers; Saiga, Izhvesk, Arsenal etc.

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    In my experience Green Mountain nitrided barrels are the most accurate. Other aspects about US barrels will always be debated but they've been the most accurate for me.

    For com bloc guns, K variants that have been re-crowned seem to be the most accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrgunsngear View Post
    In my experience Green Mountain nitrided barrels are the most accurate. Other aspects about US barrels will always be debated but they've been the most accurate for me.

    For com bloc guns, K variants that have been re-crowned seem to be the most accurate.

    It's the difference between a precision barrel and a hammer forged chrome lined machinegun grade barrel.

    I only use former com block barrels and most of my guns are factory anyway.

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    About 3moa avg. I have been shooting about 1k per month between my wasr and my Saiga and I have renewed respect for the practical accuracy of the platform.
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    No 7.62x39 rifle is going to be a target rifle but you can effectively engage 18" silhouette targets out to 400 meters if needed.

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    Last edited by 7n6; 06-19-17 at 16:58.

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