Civil War in the US: Was the Baseball Game Shooting the Opening Salvo?

[ABNAK]

Civil War? No.

A reason for the non-lefties to push back a little more and say "F**k this!"? Yeah. And it may include more ballsy, violent reactions to provocations, like the Antifags getting their heads busted and or shot.

[Doc Safari]

A reason for the non-lefties to push back a little more and say "F**k this!"? Yeah. And it may include more ballsy, violent reactions to provocations, like the Antifags getting their heads busted and or shot.

But isn't that falling right into the maelstrom? One asshole starts, and the next goes, "MY TURN!" and the next thing you know it's a free-for-all.

I would think the sane approach would be to enforce the laws and round up the people inciting violence. Isn't that already a crime? We are not talking putting people in jail for a difference of opinion but for fomenting rebellion. Oh, wait......nobody has the balls to do that---or maybe the government is already too heavily infiltrated to enforce such laws if you agree with the rhetoric.

[SteyrAUG]

This is an easy one. No.

Completely agree.

OKC bombing was supposed to start the civil war, it didn't. This is yet another radical extremist who thinks his loony toon insanity is mainstream thought and he took his SJW shit too far.

[Outlander Systems]

Quoting for gospel.

I'm very pro-Liberty, but, like you, I've gone around the Mulberry bush with Lolbertarianism, and find some of it to be a little on the kooky side as well.

I've come full-circle to the conclusion that what we've got is the best that human minds have been able to come up with thus far. Warts and all.

There is a big difference between someone who doesn't toe the Republican line and agree with all of the far right rhetoric and someone who is democrat leaning. I have never cast a single vote for someone with a D beside their name but that doesn't mean I find what the clowns do in the Republican Party to be good for the country or even competent. Unfortunately nuance is lost and so you can't even disagree with Trump around here without having liberal and socialist claims flung in your direction.

If I had to apply a label to myself it would likely be Libertarian but even they are a bit too loony for my tastes. It sure as hell would not be democrat.

[ABNAK]

But isn't that falling right into the maelstrom? One asshole starts, and the next goes, "MY TURN!" and the next thing you know it's a free-for-all.

I would think the sane approach would be to enforce the laws and round up the people inciting violence. Isn't that already a crime? We are not talking putting people in jail for a difference of opinion but for fomenting rebellion. Oh, wait......nobody has the balls to do that---or maybe the government is already too heavily infiltrated to enforce such laws if you agree with the rhetoric.

Oh well, they are the ones who have "started" it, who have significantly ratcheted it up. It would only be logical to assume some on the other side are going to get tired of it, law-abiding or not. I'm not talking wantonly mowing down a lefty protest or such, but perhaps deadly force being used the next time a bike lock gets crashed into someone's skull? Something along those lines. Or more in-your-face reactions to in-your-face libtard rants.

Look, I avoid protests and such as I don't go looking for trouble. Got better things to do. That said, I also tend to have a VERY short patience level with asinine people, and these lefties fit that description. I wouldn't hesitate to clock some rabid, frothing libtard screaming in my face, but that's just me. I'm not the type to back down, for better or for worse, and to my detriment even if for principle alone. I'm not stupid mind you, just stubborn.

[Doc Safari]

Oh well, they are the ones who have "started" it, who have significantly ratcheted it up. It would only be logical to assume some on the other side are going to get tired of it, law-abiding or not. I'm not talking wantonly mowing down a lefty protest or such, but perhaps deadly force being used the next time a bike lock gets crashed into someone's skull? Something along those lines. Or more in-your-face reactions to in-your-face libtard rants.

Look, I avoid protests and such as I don't go looking for trouble. Got better things to do. That said, I also tend to have a VERY short patience level with asinine people, and these lefties fit that description. I wouldn't hesitate to clock some rabid, frothing libtard screaming in my face, but that's just me.

If I'm getting your point: the solution is along the lines of potential victims carrying concealed and smacking down attacks from political opponents as they happen, not in the form of revenge attacks.

I like it. I like it.

[ABNAK]

If I'm getting your point: the solution is along the lines of potential victims carrying concealed and smacking down attacks from political opponents as they happen, not in the form of revenge attacks.

I like it. I like it.

Not even necessarily CCW'ing per se (though certainly a good idea), but more an attitude and determination that enough is enough. The finer points of a given situation will dictate how you react, but acquiescence and retreating aren't any longer options. Common tactical sense should obviously rule, but the "Moral High Road"? Nah. Get down and dirty, give it back in spades.

[Arik]

I don't believe so. I think we've had this in the past and came out ok. This time is no different. I wasn't around for the 60s but weren't there violent race riots and lots of anti cop mentality? Did it seem like civil war was about to happen at that time? I'm sure it did.

Of course there also was an actual civil war......

Good to stay positive but prepared

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[26 Inf]

I don't think we are even close to that point. I'm sure I'll be surprised as heck and caught totally off guard if an when an actual civil war broke out.

I'll bet some of the folks who are saying 'we've reached the tipping point' are also ones who went out and bought up all the positive pressure haz mat suits a couple years ago during the ebola panic.

That was another case of the media working folks into a frenzy.

[BoringGuy45]

We've been debating on this site for awhile whether or not the Left has the balls for a war. Some may, but most don't. I think many, if not most, want a war; they'd love nothing more than something like the The Troubles to start in the U.S. They'd love for there to be a terrorist group that sniped a few cops and soldiers every day, bombed GOP rallies, kidnapped right wing activists and politicians and left their bodies in a ditch with their throats cut. But they want someone else to do it. Most leftists would rather just tweet and hashtag their support for whoever does this.

Now, if Antifa were to actually arm themselves, start actually gunning down opponents, and were willing to actually put their lives on the line and fight those who actually fight back, I'd be more worried. But for now, they go from protesting the police to pleading for police help the second after they get punched in the nose. That's not a group willing to make a final stand at the Alamo.