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Thread: USS Fitzgerald Collision (and another: USS McCain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    It's definitely not over yet. Investigators and upper command are looking closely at the whole watch section on duty at the time of the incident.
    Could someone on watch on the opposite side of the ship be held accountable?
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    And another one

    USS John S. McCain collides with merchant ship in Pacific.

    The guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain was involved in a collision with a merchant vessel east of Singapore and the Strait of Malacca, the 7th Fleet announced in a tweet.


    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08...n-pacific.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    USS John S. McCain collides with merchant ship in Pacific.

    The guided-missile destroyer USS John S. McCain was involved in a collision with a merchant vessel east of Singapore and the Strait of Malacca, the 7th Fleet announced in a tweet.


    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08...n-pacific.html
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    This has to be a command issue. I guess the last few years have been ruff on command selections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    This has to be a command issue. I guess the last few years have been ruff on command selections.
    We had someone in office for 8 years who deliberately wanted us less able as a worldwide force, so that would be a possible result.
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    i know a lot is asked of our sailors, so I expect mistakes to happen, this would be the second time this year that a guided missile ship collided with another ship, both happen to be commercial merchant ships and both incidents occurred in busy shipping lanes near ports, but the third one (which hasn't happened yet) will make me wonder.

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    This marked the fourth mishap for U.S. Navy ships in the Pacific since February.

    Aside from the USS McCain and USS Fitgerald incidents, the Navy crusier USS Antietam ran aground dumping over 1,000 gallons of oil in Tokyo Bay in Februray. In May, another cruiser, USS Lake Champlain, hit a South Korean fishing vessel.
    Didn't hear about the fishing boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    This has to be a command issue. I guess the last few years have been ruff on command selections.
    We'd like to think so, but what if it isn't? What if China or Russia has figured out a way to fool our systems and that is what's happening?
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