USS Fitzgerald Collision (and another: USS McCain)

[pinzgauer]

Thought this article was insightful. Also touches on the apparent condition of the ship in the pics/video.

http://taskandpurpose.com/fitzgeralds-watch-team-mine/

The area this last one happened is apparently a very busy stretch of ocean due to geography. Which significantly increases probability of interaction.

Don't know what really happened. I'm at least a bit suspicious that we have multiple events, makes me think there may be some systematic issue. (Tech or people).

[chuckman]

Another excellent article from Proceedings:

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proce...re-root-causes

[Todd.K]

Is it true that there is no "school" and thus no washouts for new Navy Officers?

[SeriousStudent]

Is it true that there is no "school" and thus no washouts for new Navy Officers?

Here's some info regarding training of Surface warfare Officers (SWO's):

http://cimsec.org/circles-surface-wa...training/24050

TLR - there was a school. They closed it, and gave everyone CBT's to watch while underway. Bad. Idea. New school starts up again.

[ABNAK]

Here's some info regarding training of Surface warfare Officers (SWO's):

http://cimsec.org/circles-surface-wa...training/24050

TLR - there was a school. They closed it, and gave everyone CBT's to watch while underway. Bad. Idea. New school starts up again.

So this was/is the Navy's version of, for instance, IOBC for Infantry officers? While not a Navy guy I cannot believe they would send newly minted officers to the fleet without specific training for being a surface warfare officer. They don't send submarine officers straight to a sub do they? Jeesh.....

[T2C]

Here's some info regarding training of Surface warfare Officers (SWO's):

http://cimsec.org/circles-surface-wa...training/24050

TLR - there was a school. They closed it, and gave everyone CBT's to watch while underway. Bad. Idea. New school starts up again.

Do you think upper command felt technology was a substitute for standardized training before assigning a surface officer to the fleet?

[SeriousStudent]

Do you think upper command felt technology was a substitute for standardized training before assigning a surface officer to the fleet?

Do I think that some beancounter with little or no time underway thought that? Yep, I bet they probably did.

Do I think it was a good idea? Nope, not at all.

[Coal Dragger]

..... a bit of humor at the 7th Fleet's expense....

https://www.duffelblog.com/2017/08/n...ntown-houston/

[chuckman]

Is it true that there is no "school" and thus no washouts for new Navy Officers?

The schoolhouse in Newport has been closed, for years. The Navy in all of its wisdom believed that OJT/apprenticeship-type training was more valuable. It is the way that many of the enlisted rates learned their trade.

I don't know of a single SWO who thought closing the schoolhouse was a good idea.

Being a SWO, especially a junior one, is a herd life underway. Every minute of non-sleep time (which is about 5 hours) is accounted for, and the collateral duties are enormous.

[platoonDaddy]

Knew this was coming:

The military is examining whether compromised computer systems were responsible for one of two U.S. Navy destroyer collisions with merchant vessels that occurred in recent months, Vice Admiral Jan Tighe, the deputy chief of naval operations for information warfare, said on Thursday.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/09/14/...y-cyberattack/