Judge tells man to choose between 2A and grandson

[SomeOtherGuy]

I don't remember much fuss about guns beyond keep them secure, to be honest I don't recall if there were stipulations about taking foster kids shooting **

I think this is state-specific, unless there is a federal standard above the states that I don't know of. Michigan state government has a wide range of interest groups and fiefdoms. For example, the State Police are quite practical, reasonable and even somewhat helpful on firearms laws (accurate plain English summaries, no institutional hostility) and speed limits (based on traffic studies with MDOT, very sensible approach based on safety and average travel speeds). You look at the business-focused agencies and they are professional and responsive with friendly people, not petty bureaucrats. Lots of good things in some parts of state government.

But I have no dealings with MDHHS and, although this is speculation, it wouldn't surprise me if it's influenced by people with different values and goals.

[yoni]

These are the people who need to be hung from the nearest tree when the time comes.

I think the time has not come and gone.

[SteyrAUG]

These are the people who need to be hung from the nearest tree when the time comes.

This seems to be the way it is with the left now. Who cares if its right or legal? We can just do whatever we want and nobody can or will do anything about it.

Yep, imagine being told you have to choose between your right to vote or right to free speech and your grandson.

[ABNAK]

"Blow me" would be on the tip of my tongue but I know judges don't like that and it's for the kid after all, but jeez.....

[_Stormin_]

A terrible position to be put in, but infuriating when essentially the statement "we don't care about your rights," is made when the rule is challenged.

[sgtrock82]

Sounds like its time to sell the guns to a close friend or relative for a buck.....

[SteyrAUG]

Sounds like its time to sell the guns to a close friend or relative for a buck.....

When cooler heads prevail hopefully that is the kind of solution that is arrived at. But at the same time, I wouldn't mind if this guy decided to start a legal shit storm and cause some headaches for the judge who ruled.

[SomeOtherGuy]

Sounds like its time to sell the guns to a close friend or relative for a buck.....

When cooler heads prevail hopefully that is the kind of solution that is arrived at. But at the same time, I wouldn't mind if this guy decided to start a legal shit storm and cause some headaches for the judge who ruled.

No, that's not a good solution. People should be able to live normally and exercise their basic rights without lying or being put in unreasonable positions. I would imagine that thousands of people just lie to avoid this issue, but the plaintiffs here are completely in the right to not lie and instead sue and push the enforcement of their rights.

[diving dave]

My daughter has temporary custody of 2 foster kids. During the initial meeting they stated if you own firearms they must be locked up and not accessible to the kids. that was it. Of course this is Montana.

[Dienekes]

We are fast coming up on this: "Lex iniusta lex non est"--an unjust law is no law. Aquinas, Augustine, MLK's "Letter from Birmingham jail".

There's a BIG difference between legitimate law and willful abuse of power. We used to care about stuff like that.