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Thread: Why does it seem that liberal policies can't be undone?

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    I was thinking one of the reasons is we have a bunch of paycheck collecting, donor schmoozing, elitist, no ball having so called "conservatives" in Congress that spend more time bickering with each other than they do actually coming up with good ideas and compromising on their bad ones.

    Maybe I'm biased though. Could be common decency clouding my nefarious "politician's angle" outlook.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAZ View Post
    Lots o truth there. However you're missing something. Conservatives have ZERO representation at most levels of government. Think of the GOP as a whole. Are they the anti DNC or r they the DNC wearing a different tie?

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    Mala striga deleta est. (The wicked witch is finished.)

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    Well we're talking primarily about a policy that was created almost word for word by the most respected conservative think tank in the country as a way to stave off single payer/universal healthcare. And introduced as a bill with guys like Chuck Grassley, Orin Hatch, Dick Lugar, Arlen Specter, and Bob Dole co-sponsoring it.

    It's not all that liberal of a law. https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-...nate-bill/1770

    Remember that Bush's Medicare part D expansion cost almost as much as Obamacare...and only covers prescription drugs.

    Is Obamacare a good thing? Obviously it is not. It's more government where there should be less. But it's not the socialist apocalypse machine that so many have cried over the past several years either.

    Just food for thought.

    Liberal policies that are out and out bad? Get overturned all the time. The United States has much more liberal(in the sense that there is more liberty) gun laws now than when most members were born. We have deregulated with great success a number of industries. There is more freedom available and places where the government is not, than at many times in history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thopkins22 View Post
    But it's not the socialist apocalypse machine that so many have cried over the past several years either.
    The mandate is probably the second scariest thing to happen to Freedom in my lifetime. I put it just behind the surveillance state in anti Freedom potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    The mandate is probably the second scariest thing to happen to Freedom in my lifetime. I put it just behind the surveillance state in anti Freedom potential.
    Yeah but if you can't get rid of the whole thing, the mandate is the only reason it even kinda works.

    Either way, I don't disagree, just pointing out that it was a Republican idea, and only when Democrats passed it two decades later did we all chose to freak out.

    Although there are arguments to be made that it's essentially the opposite of a consumption tax and that those who chose not to purchase health insurance are potentially costing every person who does very tangible costs over their lifetimes.

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    What would Obamacare be without the taxpayer funded SUBSIDIES? Yeah the mandate is not kosher, but the freaking subsidies paid for by someone else? The less you make the less you pay?

    That's what I thought.
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