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    Quote Originally Posted by ABNAK View Post
    Interesting.....it appears some states can sue/complain/whatever about not funding the CSR's as Trump has threatened to do. But since the CSR's are not part of the Obamacare law and were funded by EO each time, can a court force Trump to sign an EO? Can a court force something to be made into law which currently isn't?

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/02...urt-rules.html
    This is just the left playing their stupid games. All he has to do is nothing. A court can't force him to sign an EO, that is retarded that they even think that. They are just trying to work the media and give them something to blame Trump for, again.

    All he has to say is that YOUR people should have put that in the LAW if you wanted it to continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    Trump does not have to "take away" money from the insurance companies. He just has to do nothing as the CSR is not apart of the ACA and was funded via an EO every year by Obama.
    But, I do believe he could EO an end to any more funding and at the same time cut out the sweetest healthcare deal ever that was given to our Legislators and their Staffs to bring them back in to take another look at the ACA.
    That they are treated better than the people who put them in Office is criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    But, I do believe he could EO an end to any more funding and at the same time cut out the sweetest healthcare deal ever that was given to our Legislators and their Staffs to bring them back in to take another look at the ACA.
    That they are treated better than the people who put them in Office is criminal.
    He could EO to remove Congresses healthcare. That is a separate issue.

    The EO to fund the CSR was an after thought that the Left had when they realized that they passed the ACA but it would cost the carriers too much and none would enter the program. The thing that most people don't understand is that the ACA plans are still not affordable for the people that it was intended to help. The plans are also not profitable for the carriers at all. The only way that the Left could get it to work in the real world was to through billions of dollars at it. As we have seen even with this extra money most carriers were leaving because of the huge losses they are taking. Much of this is the cost lost ratio that has to be filed after the plan year ends. The the GOV takes money from teh carriers that made money and gives it to those that lost money.......... sounds a lot like socialism. Most defiantly the left are involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    This is just the left playing their stupid games. All he has to do is nothing. A court can't force him to sign an EO, that is retarded that they even think that. They are just trying to work the media and give them something to blame Trump for, again.

    All he has to say is that YOUR people should have put that in the LAW if you wanted it to continue.
    Kind of what I was thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docsherm View Post
    This is just the left playing their stupid games. All he has to do is nothing. A court can't force him to sign an EO, that is retarded that they even think that. They are just trying to work the media and give them something to blame Trump for, again.

    All he has to say is that YOUR people should have put that in the LAW if you wanted it to continue.
    A judge could rule that he has to fund it, but until said judge commands an army or federal law enforcement agency that could overcome the USSS at the WH, he/she can't enforce it.
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    I believe the payments to the insurance companies part of this has already been deemed unconstitutional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
    A judge could rule that he has to fund it, but until said judge commands an army or federal law enforcement agency that could overcome the USSS at the WH, he/she can't enforce it.
    I would love to see that. Have a judge rule on it and Trump simply saying "Make Me!".
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