Charlottesville Rally - Deaths etc

[Averageman]

"The term "Reichstag fire" is used by some writers to denote a calamitous event staged by a political movement, orchestrated in a manner that casts blame on their opponents, thus causing the opponents to be viewed with suspicion by the general public. This is sometimes known as a false flag attack when the event itself is caused by proponents of a political movement to falsely accuse their opponents."

In this case, I'm becoming more convinced as time goes on we are headed toward a very,very bad place.
I would guess again that all parties involved wanted a fight, that after Fridays events it wasn't stopped has me curious as to why not.

[tb-av]

Did they identify themselves as "alt-right"?

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Absolutely, yes. The top dog. "These people, their number one priority was shutting down the Alt right, not allowing us to speak our minds." Jason Kessler starts at 1:00 min mark. You can't get much more clear about who he thinks he is than that.

https://www.pscp.tv/TheMadDimension1/1yoJMplRNDOGQ?t=68

I don't agree with all the white power BS, but the guy has a point. Hell it's a matter of court record...... and he won!

Whoever drove that car has spent a lot of time backing up, I can tell you that. Never seen anyone back a car up like that that hadn't practiced it many many times.

BTW, for those that don't know. Chancellorsville is college town. The outlying area is favored by musicians and movie stars. It's all super Liberal.


Go to the court doc I posted above. Page 13 items 56 and 57.

I can't get the text to format properly. August 8th changes were made to make life difficult for Alt Right group. Political pressure. At same time, the counter protesters were given two downtown permits ( I assume where the car went through ) AND access to the park without permits.

Shades of Hillary, Wasserman, Lynch, et al..

[TomMcC]

Yeah all those neo nazi's and kkk members that were out rallying for Obama right? I'm sure that side is consistently voting democrat...

Nazis and communists in Germany hated each other, but they were both "socialists". Just because people are grossly inconsistent doesn't really explain things at a "principle" level. The OP labeled them as alt-right, do they self identify as such? Maybe they did, I don't know. But to say, like leftists do, that Republicans and nazis/kkk have some kinship at some level is an extremely dubious assertion.

[skywalkrNCSU]

Nazis and communists in Germany hated each other, but they were both "socialists". Just because people are grossly inconsistent doesn't really explain things at a "principle" level. The OP labeled them as alt-right, do they self identify as such? Maybe they did, I don't know. But to say, like leftists do, that Republicans and nazis/kkk have some kinship at some level is an extremely dubious assertion.

Yes, they identify as alt right

[sidewaysil80]

You know, I was just watching the video of it happening. When that car goes down the street just as getting ready to hit the people it passes this girl and you can hear her as she watches and say "****!!"(F-word)... Not like OMG!! but like damn it's being done wrong!!

Isn't that going to be something if this was a peacenick.

It seems kinda odd one of the KKK types would be playing the loner. They were traveling in protected groups. For a loner to do this would be totally out of line with their agenda.

Whoever drove that car has spent a lot of time backing up, I can tell you that. Never seen anyone back a car up like that that hadn't practiced it many many times.

You've never seen someone backup in a straight line before? At least wait for the facts to come out regarding the driver before insinuating it was a planned conspiracy.

[TomMcC]

Absolutely, yes. The top dog. "These people, their number one priority was shutting down the Alt right, not allowing us to speak our minds." Jason Kessler starts at 1:00 min mark. You can't get much more clear about who he thinks he is than that.

https://www.pscp.tv/TheMadDimension1/1yoJMplRNDOGQ?t=68

I don't agree with all the white power BS, but the guy has a point. Hell it's a matter of court record...... and he won!

Whoever drove that car has spent a lot of time backing up, I can tell you that. Never seen anyone back a car up like that that hadn't practiced it many many times.

I was typing when you wrote this, thanks.

[Averageman]

You've never seen someone backup in a straight line before? At least wait for the facts to come out regarding the driver before insinuating it was a planned conspiracy.

I think his point is, backing that car up in a straight line after running in to a group of people isn't something someone does well in an emotional state.
The adrenaline dump, the confusion etc, would likely cause a rational, normal, untrained person to has less than precise control.
It looks rather planned/practiced to me.

[yoni]

I was blissfully ignorant this whole ugly business, due to the Jewish Sabbath.

Seems to me the cops and fire were the only good people there. I have to wonder if the chopper that went down had been shot at.

I feel sorry for the families of the dead officers.

The police should have retreated, and then called in an air strike on both the left and right wack jobs.

[Gunfixr]

In the research I did, a couple weeks ago, Kessler is a known kkk sympathizer, at the least. In one of the videos I saw today, people carrying a banner that had something about a "superior race", those were the only two words I could identify at the angled view.
It had devolved to violence well before the start time. There were reports of people throwing excrement, cans filled with concrete, and using pepper spray.
Then, of course, the brawling in the street. When the car thing happened, it had already been declared an unlawful gathering, and state police and local guard units were dispersing the crowds.
Not sure exactly when the chopper crashed, but report I saw said they were in the air monitoring the event.

Saw one video of 10 to perhaps 20 kitted out and armed persons. Definitely not police, mismatched equipment and clothing. A few helmets, some plate carriers, some chest rigs. Some packs, water carriers. Mag pouches with mags, sidearms, long guns. Ars with mags, one ksg shotgun. A few had radios. Both men and women, stayed pretty well together, moved together, looked like at least they knew each other fairly well.

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[Averageman]

There were reports of people throwing excrement, cans filled with concrete, and using pepper spray.

Saw one video of 10 to perhaps 20 kitted out and armed persons. Definitely not police, mismatched equipment and clothing. A few helmets, some plate carriers, some chest rigs. Some packs, water carriers. Mag pouches with mags, sidearms, long guns. Ars with mags, one ksg shotgun. A few had radios. Both men and women, stayed pretty well together, moved together, looked like at least they knew each other fairly well.

Looks like they were prepared for a street fight.