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    My ex wanted to go to Austin for a event on 6th Street two decades ago. There were Arts&Crafts and the whole event had a Hippie vibe to it.
    She got fifteen feet ahead of me and turned the corner and a homeless guy grabbed her butt. She screamed and I accelerated.
    I turned the corner and this guy had a double handful of her butt, both cheeks and squeezing.
    You know that 40 he had sitting against his sack, my steel toed engineer boot made a mess of it. He let go pretty quickly.
    I've not been back to 6th street and I don't have time to help the homeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    My ex wanted to go to Austin for a event on 6th Street two decades ago. There were Arts&Crafts and the whole event had a Hippie vibe to it.
    She got fifteen feet ahead of me and turned the corner and a homeless guy grabbed her butt. She screamed and I accelerated.
    I turned the corner and this guy had a double handful of her butt, both cheeks and squeezing.
    You know that 40 he had sitting against his sack, my steel toed engineer boot made a mess of it. He let go pretty quickly.
    I've not been back to 6th street and I don't have time to help the homeless.
    should have waited till the 40 was in his face then kick it in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honu View Post
    should have waited till the 40 was in his face then kick it in
    Face vs his sack?
    I'm pretty sure I hit the tight spot.

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    I am a big fan of just doing the Craig Douglas "fence hands" and telling them "Sorry, I can't help you." That sounds good on the police report, if they become aggressive.

    If they do become aggressive, then I am also a fan of the Chuck Haggard "Wall o' Pepper Spray". I've got a Sabre Red Spitfire pepper spray dispenser pretty much all the time. Laying down a cloud of pepper spray between me and the aggressive panhandler works well. Chuck taught me that, and I have only had to do it one time. The person in question said a very loud "EFF THAT!" and went in the opposite direction from me.

    Problem solved, problem staying solved.

    The fog dispensers work a lot better than the stream or especially the foam ones for building a chemical wall, then beating feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    Face vs his sack?
    I'm pretty sure I hit the tight spot.
    OH I was thinking brown bag sack not HIS hahahaahah OK even better mate !!!!!!!!

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    Worst for me was Philly, circa 2002-04.

    Never gave money, but if a guy was sleeping on a grate in winter at 11pm as I headed home from a date, I'd give him my left over take-home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduceus View Post
    Worst for me was Philly, circa 2002-04.

    Never gave money, but if a guy was sleeping on a grate in winter at 11pm as I headed home from a date, I'd give him my left over take-home.
    My wife has a coworker who regularly does this. I figure that if a person truly is homeless and hungry they will be glad to receive someone's leftovers.
    Gave a station $20 and said that the guy in the lot who was desperate could put it in his gas tank but nothing else and I'll be back to get my change. When I returned the attendant told me that the guy tried to get the "change" in cash.
    So very tired of trying to help "street people."
    I give both $ and time through my church. I've come to feel that if you can't take advantage of the myriad social programs offered that maybe you are the problem...
    Sucks that we have so many mentally ill and messed up veterans but there are others who are better equipped to determine what help will be best. My job is to provide resources for those ministries and ngos that have a better chance of success in actually helping folks.

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    Over the years I've had to learn to become far less polite in South Florida.

    Back in 1989 I was walking into a record store (look it up) and some guy gave me the "need a few bucks for gas so I can get home" song and dance. Having been "almost out of gas" a few times in my life I gave the guy a couple bucks. Later I felt like an idiot when I saw him walking into the coffee shop. I guess it could have been worse and I could have paid for his drugs rather than getting scammed for a free coffee.

    Fool me once.

    Since then I've become pretty good for just forcefully saying "No!" even before they can complete their BS sentence. More than once this has been followed up with "You need to keep walking" especially if I'm with my wife. Sometimes they try and get really, really polite which makes me even less tolerant.

    I simply refuse to pay for somebodies beer, cigarettes or drug money. If I'm feeling charitable and you look more like an old homeless vet than a drugged out loser who should be working for a living, I've been known to make a second pass through the drive thru and buy a sack of burgers and fries. There have also been a few times I've been on the way home from dinner and seen the "Will work for food" guy and asked him if he wanted my "to go" bag.

    Years ago I saw a guy standing in the rain at night and I just handed it to him. Half a rack of BBQ ribs and fries. He promptly walked to a bus stop bench and ate it. Really hated to let that BBQ go, but he looked like he needed it more than I did.

    Kind of sucks, I worry that 8-10% of the people asking are seriously in need of help and aren't actually drug addicts or trying to scam beer and cigarette money. But just like in everything else, the bottom feeders screw it up for everyone else.

    One thing I've noticed, even with homeless people, even with ones that seem to have a serious disconnect with the real world...they all seem to understand when a person is seriously preparing to pound the shit out of them because they are just getting too damn close.

    I've actually had to switch gas stations and now pay about .05 cents more per gallon so I don't have to have a weekly confrontation with idiots walking up to me asking for money.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

    Chuck, we miss ya man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post

    On occasion I've been asked for money when I leave the Spangles, my standard response is, I don't have any cash, but I'll be glad to go back inside with you and buy you something. Haven't had any takers so far.

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    This is the worst.

    Everytime you offer them food, they will refuse. They want cash because they will buy smokes, booze, or drugs.

    One time I offered a homeless guy a dozen fresh muffins I had in my car and he refused. Pissed me off pretty bad. Another time I was with a good friend coming out of a restaurant when an older man who was dressed in normal (not dirty) clothes asked us for gas money. We said no, but my friend had a gas can in his car and offered to buy him gas at the station. Again the man said no, and wanted cash.

    Its hard to help these people out most of the time when you don't know how they will spend the money you give them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JusticeM4 View Post
    This is the worst.

    Everytime you offer them food, they will refuse. They want cash because they will buy smokes, booze, or drugs.

    One time I offered a homeless guy a dozen fresh muffins I had in my car and he refused. Pissed me off pretty bad. Another time I was with a good friend coming out of a restaurant when an older man who was dressed in normal (not dirty) clothes asked us for gas money. We said no, but my friend had a gas can in his car and offered to buy him gas at the station. Again the man said no, and wanted cash.

    Its hard to help these people out most of the time when you don't know how they will spend the money you give them.
    I am pretty sure I know what they want to spend "it" on

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