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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    If I could remove one thing from 20th century pop culture, it would be Star Trek.

    It was Wagon Train with hippie Cultural Marxism.

    Man from UNCLE had two best friends screwing beatnik hippie girls who didnt shave, china dolls, and the occasional Jackie O wannabe while gunning down
    terrorists. It was the Strike Back of the 60s.

    I wish I could punch out every Trekkie ever.

    Buck Rogers gets a pass because Erin Gray and the little robot dude
    I grew up watching Star Trek just about every night on reruns in the early 70s. If it was an attempt at marxist indoctrination it failed...horribly in my case. I was never a "Trekkie" but I loved the show and still do. As for Buck Rogers, between Princess Ardala and Commander Deering that show was "almost" as incredible as Wonder Woman with Linda Carter. I know now that Wonder Woman was "supposed" to be teaching me about feminism and all that stuff but the only thing I got was Linda Carter was amazingly hot and that Wonder Woman costume was awesome.

    Lots of hippie shows and movies tried to pass on a strong socialist, marxist or communist ideology. They usually failed just like movies like "Betrayed" didn't make me sympathetic to the white supremacy movement. It is a rare tv show or film that forces me to contemplate or reevaluate my beliefs, and even in those instances they are merely a catalyst for the evaluation and not the new belief that will be adopted. I guess I'm just not as susceptible as some.

    I liked Red Dawn in part because it mirrored my beliefs and political views, but honestly if they had been fighting a resurgent Imperial Japan I would have felt more or less the same way about the film. I can only think of one film (series) that I watched simply for the politics and that would be Amerika (1987) and while scary as social prophesy it was rather hard to watch as there were no battles or exciting elements like "Red Dawn" and unless you really understand global politics it gets boring at times.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    The original Green Hornet TV series was awesome. BLACK Beauty and Bruce f'n Lee as Kato.

    The movie with Seth Rogen just flat out sucked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba FAL View Post
    The original Green Hornet TV series was awesome. BLACK Beauty and Bruce f'n Lee as Kato.

    The movie with Seth Rogen just flat out sucked...
    Agreed. They could have at least gotten an actual martial artist so they didn't have to CGI "Charlie's Angels" fighting skills. Van Williams never exactly carried the show but Seth Rogan flat out sucked. Maybe next they can cast Jonah Hill as Batman because fat, doper comedians make the most awesome super heroes. But even the movie itself sucked so I guess no harm in making a complete disaster out of everything.

    I have all the original TV episodes on DVD so it really doesn't bother me. Would have been kind of cool if Jet Li had done a remake in the early days before he started cracking out crap like "Romeo Must Die."
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    If you were old enough to remember sometimes the would have an alien monster on one show and then remarkably it would show up a month or so later on a different show with few changes.
    at like 11 I knew they were low budget.
    I was not so much referring to the budget, or his progressive tendencies, but more his story writing, Etc.
    And his repetitiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    If I could remove one thing from 20th century pop culture, it would be Star Trek.

    It was Wagon Train with hippie Cultural Marxism.

    Yet, there were also politically incorrect episodes based on your analysis. "A Private Little War" was an episode blatantly justifying the Vietnam War. And it came out right before the news of the Tet Offensive hit the airwaves. Not bad for a "hippie marxist" TV show.

    My one major criticism of the original Star Trek is that Roddenberry sincerely believed that when we "go out there" we will find people just like us. That's why you got episodes with Nazis, Romans, Greek gods, etc., and even an actual duplicate of Earth but ravaged by a plague. I think he could not be more wrong. I don't think people on other worlds will be very much like us at all. In fact they may try to kill us and eat us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    I was not so much referring to the budget, or his progressive tendencies, but more his story writing, Etc.
    And his repetitiveness.
    I was referring to the great stories and slim to none special effects budgets.
    You could go from Land of the Giants to Time Tunnel, to Lost in Space and then over to 20,000 Leagues under the sea and find the same species of alien had attacked them all within a year of episodes.
    It kind of ruined it for me because they didn't budget anything for special effects to boost the sometimes great stories.
    I would have sent them a letter about my concerns but I doubt if they would have taken me seriously. It would have been written in crayon on a Big Chief notebook paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I was referring to the great stories and slim to none special effects budgets.
    You could go from Land of the Giants to Time Tunnel, to Lost in Space and then over to 20,000 Leagues under the sea and find the same species of alien had attacked them all within a year of episodes.
    It kind of ruined it for me because they didn't budget anything for special effects to boost the sometimes great stories.
    I would have sent them a letter about my concerns but I doubt if they would have taken me seriously. It would have been written in crayon on a Big Chief notebook paper.
    I actually got a kick out of picking out areas where budget constraints had forced things to be reused. Going back to your favorite (Star Trek), the Aurora Cruiser in "The Way to Eden" is just one of the ships from "The Tholian Web" with engines glued on. My favorite low budget cannibalization was the USS Constellation from "The Doomsday Machine". Supposedly it was the actual hobbyist AMT plastic model of the Enterprise built up and battle damaged for filming.

    I love how the sound effect for the Klingon disuptor weapon ended up being used for just about everything that wasn't a Federation weapon.

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