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Thats the place I got my Hornady Tap 2 from. Only $140 for 200 rounds. No other company was selling T2 cheaper than $180 for 200 rounds. I'm glad to they have TBBC. I wasn't aware of it. ThanksOriginally Posted by BufordTJustice
Wow the Gold Dot SP are much much cheaper than the Federal TBBC. TBBC I see is top rated but the Gold Dot has good reviews also.
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I have some of both. But my preference is either 62gr TBBC 5.56 or 70gr GMX TAP.
Still, 64gr gold dot is never the wrong answer. Especially at these prices.
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Honestly, it's starting to split hairs when comparing GDs, TBBC, CLUB, Fusion, etc. ALL perform really well and fairly consistently. So long as your gun runs them, you can't really go wrong.
When it comes fragmenting rounds and barriers, I continue to be intrigued by the offerings from DRT. Granted, "disintegrate" is probably a more accurate description of their performance. What's long peaked my interest is how well they do against barriers. I forget what channel, but a guy on YouTube ran it through a windshield with pretty nice results. Zipped right through, stayed perfectly intact, and then performed just as intended when it hit the gel on the other side.
It'll probably always seem a little "gimmicky". But, it has shown to do exactly what they claim it will do. There are plenty of end user tests taking hogs and deer with it quite easily. And the gel tests, across the board, all illustrate very consistent performance. I recall even seeing some guys take a whitetail with in of their 39gr rounds.
In doing some research, an upside that often goes unmentioned relates to the "fragmentation" threshold. They have it listed at 1400-1500 fps. I can't think of many other rounds that are spec'd to perform down to those lower velocities. Frankly, if the claim is accurate, I could see them being a pretty solid choice for short barreled ARs. I also like the idea that the 79gr version is supposed to stabilize in 1:9 twist barrels. But, while interesting, that might not matter nearly as much for a sizeable segment of shooters.
ETA: I found the video. Jump to the 10:40ish minute mark to see the portion relating to the windshield...
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I wonder why TBBC is more than double the price of gold dots. Is it because TBBC its an FBI load? Or better through windshields?
Last edited by Wolf.545 x .39; 09-28-17 at 22:03.
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Gold dot.
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Coastwise the speer gold dot is hard to beat.However it retained only 29 grains when going through auto glass. The question is how many rounds do we need for a home defense situation or civil war? Would one rather have 100 rounds of the TBBC bullet versus $200 for 200 speer gold dots? I might buy a 100 of the TBBC because if it being so highly regarded. The speer gold dot is no slouch. For home defense I would say speer gold dots. Anything outside the house I'm going with TBBC rounds. Its splitting hair but I'll take every advantage of the more expensive round. I'll be buying speer gold dots also but at a later date.
Last edited by Wolf.545 x .39; 09-29-17 at 10:56.
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TBBC vs GD vs TSX doesn't matter. Pick one. Buy a case of it. Zero your rifle with it. Find a cheaper training round with similar ballistics. Train.
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I just ordered a 100 rounds of TBBC for $100 but I agree with you. I have to buy a little at a time because I'm on disability and don't even have my own car. I may zero and test 10 rounds when I get them next week. The other 90 will be going into my home defense mags. I also have Hornady Tap 2 so I have to choose between the two. I'm saving for a case of gold dots though. I'm not at a thousand rounds though.
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Part of it is because the TBBC bullet is quite special and there are royalties associated with using it. The TBBC design isn't owned by Federal/ATK; they just license it for their use.
The TBBC uses a higher antimony lead alloy than the gold dot, which uses pure lead. An analysis of a cutaway of the TBBC also shows something that the electroplated Gold Dot can never have; variable jacket thickness along the length of the bullet.
The "tougher" lead alloy core of the TBBC, along with the varying ratio of core to jacket thickness, affords the TBBC the ability to initiate immediate expansion and to control that expansion better than the Gold Dot..... or ANY other bonded soft point aside from maybe the Nosler Bonded Base..... Which i won't call a copy of the TBBC, but I'll state it's obviously CLEARLY inspired by it. Which is why Winchester uses it in the RA556B, the current FBI load.
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