Bravo versus Colt

[Iraqgunz]

Anyone can make a lemon, I've seen it with every brand to include Colt, DD, Noveske and even KAC. Funny thing is that you sent your upper back, it was replaced and then you listed it for sale before even checking to see if the new one was better.

I have built several uppers using the SS410 barrel and all of them were sub-MOA. Several other people in the thread you linked to, also stated that the groups were not normal and they reported good results.

That has been my experience with two if their ss410 barrels. The pics have been deleted but you get the idea:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...els&highlight=

[sidewaysil80]

Anyone can make a lemon, I've seen it with every brand to include Colt, DD, Noveske and even KAC. Funny thing is that you sent your upper back, it was replaced and then you listed it for sale before even checking to see if the new one was better.

I have built several uppers using the SS410 barrel and all of them were sub-MOA. Several other people in the thread you linked to, also stated that the groups were not normal and they reported good results.

You had better luck than I did with SS410 barrels. With mine and a co-worker's the results were poor and that's more than enough firsthand experience for me to write something off. The barrel didn't shoot, I was disappointed, they fixed it, I wanted to sell it as a brand new upper, and I sold it. As I said, I almost exclusively buy BCM products but I avoid their precision due to MY experiences with them.

PS.
Several other people in the thread I linked to, also stated they had poor results with the SS410 barrels. Not to mention others in different threads/forums share the same sentiment.

[Iraqgunz]

I think my point was clear.

Okay great, you had better luck than I did with SS410 lottery. Regardless, I posted MY firsthand experience and then went on to praise the company. However, I'm not alone and a quick search will yield "hit or miss" results for the SS410. As far as selling it, I don't owe BCM anything. The barrel didn't shoot, I was disappointed, they fixed it, I sold it, whats so funny?

[sidewaysil80]

I think my point was clear.

Well, as I edited my post to reflect the two SS410's that I had first hand experience with were not accurate. Several others in the thread you and I referenced also referenced poor accuracy from their barrels as well. Some have good luck with them and others have not, but it's not isolated to just me.

Nonetheless they produce flawless hard use rifles and are the industry standard imo. More importanly they openly sponsor the Wounded Warrior Project and the owner has said they match his salary 50 cents on the dollar for donations. Great company, great products.

[Animalhd1]

I currently have two Colts one 2013 and one I just got, dated March 2017 on bag, both are very similar on the finish and are great. My new one was dry and wasn't pretty in the store but I found no major marks or scratches, only minor scuffs that rubbed off with oil rag. Colts will serve you well. My BCM has a nice finish and had zero marks when new, the fit was not bad either, just slight bit of play like I like. Both are accurate.

Edit to add: Both are reliable as you can get.

[Pappabear]

Bravo vs Colt. Great vs Great. Own both love both. My experiences are both are Gold standard battles.
PB

[17K]

Do you have any data to back this up? I've heard this topic discussed on here, but it's always 2nd hand knowledge.

I have first hand experience. I've owned, and still own one BCM SS410 upper that don't shoot any ammo as well as any 6920 or Colt SOCOM will shoot. The five or so chrome lined BCM barrels didn't shoot as well as the SS410s.

BCM is a top notch company, I like 'em, I have a Mod4 charging handle in all uppers, I rock a BCM t-shirt and hat on occasion.

[The Resistance]

Colt wins.
Colt built the technical data package and is the standard.
Standards can be exceeded and often are, but if it's an M4 and this is m4carbine.net not m4gery.net than in my opinion it's gonna have to be a Colt M4.
The best everyone else can claim is "mil-spec" (except FN, building for the government to Colt's TDP).
BCM is great and although I only have five AR's, two are "real" Colt M4's and all of them have at least one BCM part in them.
You can clone almost anything now including the Colt M4. You can even make it prettier, lighter, or whatever, but it will always be something else and never the original.
Colt prices are ridiculously low right now so you probably have to spend more to get somebody else's "mil spec" or "we have the TDP" rifle so again I am going with Colt.
Other people with vested interests in other companies can and will argue this, but I won't get butt hurt. I don't get paid to endorse Colt, I am not a fanboy and Colt only takes up a total of two slots in my gun safes and they seem to play well with others.
Colt is like Trump; getting tired of winning and winning and winning............

[Jewell]

I'll start by saying that I think both Colt and BCM put out great products. I own both BCM's and Colts. In my eyes here's the difference....

Colt has been around forever, and has earned a reputation for making quality products. I not only buy Colts for the history that surrounds them, but because I know I'm getting a great all around firearm.

BCM has not been around for very long, but they have earned a stellar reputation in the short time that they have. This may just be me personally, but the thing with BCM is that they not only make great products, they make beautifully made products. That's not to say that Colt doesn't, but whenever I've pulled a Colt out of the box, it just doesn't look like it receives as much care and attention to detail as a BCM does.

BCM's are like a woman that has it all. The complete package...plus they always like to throw in a boat load of extras too.

[magister]

Both companies have reputations for putting out reliable, well built rifles. I'd be ok buying or recommending either BCM or Colt.