Any other gun companies refuse to sell guns to Israel Like Heckler and Koch?

[Jellybean]

So, "if you decline to bake a cake for a gay wedding because as a company you choose not to support that lifestyle, you're homophobic"... but for gun manufacturers...

Ironic.

As ridiculous as this entire new policy of theirs sounds at face value, and as shocked as I am that they haven't trotted out some sort of "U.S. gun violence statistics" in order to stop selling here along with the rest, it's still the company's choice WHO they sell guns and whatever else they make to.
We're not the only country on earth that gets to choose who gets what arms we produce...

[yoni]

Accuracy International and Steyr refuse to sell to Israel as well.

Nobody today is buying HK guns in Israel, only 1 unit bought HK sniper rifles and today better rifles are available.

[Hmac]

As ridiculous as this entire new policy of theirs sounds at face value, and as shocked as I am that they haven't trotted out some sort of "U.S. gun violence statistics" in order to stop selling here along with the rest, it's still the company's choice WHO they sell guns and whatever else they make to.
We're not the only country on earth that gets to choose who gets what arms we produce...

The US is too big a market. Moral outrage only goes so far if there are enough Deutschmarks on the line.

[Firefly]

Accuracy International and Steyr refuse to sell to Israel as well.

Nobody today is buying HK guns in Israel, only 1 unit bought HK sniper rifles and today better rifles are available.

MVP post of the thread.

And, someome said HK was "refusing Jews".
I highly doubt that.

A Jew in America can go on down to a gun store and if he had the money; could walk home with any and all current HK catalogue guns.

A Jew in Israel, from what I hear, has to go through some hoops just to own a gun.
Its not quite "Here have a gun" like Switzerland unless they are active Army.

I think HK is just trying to remove themselves from the whole ME spiel and likely because Germany don't have their crap together.

I agree though, by not maturely acknowledging the past and moving on and playing German guilt that they are setting themselves up for another backlash.
No its not "cool". Dudes marching in Feldgrau with shovels beating on Haji will just stir up more BS dragging everyone down too.

If ya wanna know what Hillary's presidency would have been like; look at Merkel.

But that's a tangent....

[TomMcC]

Ah Germany.......they're pretty good at making stuff....cars, guns whatever.....but ideas? I don't don't think ANY good ideas have come out of Germany since maybe Martin Luther. As imperfect as Israel is, as is most countries, HK doesn't seem to be able to make proper distinctions, pretty much the same as their home country.

[JC5188]

I have a hard time seeing the rationale in what they are doing or the way they did the announcement.

That being said, having made the decision to sell only to 'green' countries, my bet is that they asked themselves whether they get more blow back by selling to Israel or by stopping sales to Israel. It seems that they felt stopping sales to Israel was the answer.

JMO.

If they want to become an 'ethical' arms manufacturer they should probably stop production of all their firearms save their recreational target shooting lineup, if they have one. PETA you know.

Exactly, and what defines "ethical"? For those on the PC side, ethical = no more guns.

Why is it ALWAYS the Effing Germans, lol...






"I've just got like, this 5.56 okay? And it's 55 grain ball. And everybody I've ever seen shot with it, it dicks them up."

---Clint Smith
Thunder Ranch

[SteyrAUG]

Ah Germany.......they're pretty good at making stuff....cars, guns whatever.....but ideas? I don't don't think ANY good ideas have come out of Germany since maybe Martin Luther. As imperfect as Israel is, as is most countries, HK doesn't seem to be able to make proper distinctions, pretty much the same as their home country.

Honestly, I think somebody in Germany realizes they are currently well occupied and probably need to show some perceived distance between themselves and Israel before their "new arrivals" burn things down wholesale.

[yoni]

When I called Steyr to get replacement stocks for SSG1 sniper rifles we had captured from Syria, I was told very clearly "we do not sell guns to Jews"

[TomMcC]

When I called Steyr to get replacement stocks for SSG1 sniper rifles we had captured from Syria, I was told very clearly "we do not sell guns to Jews"

I'm no expert on Europe, but man they really, really don't sound like they have gotten over their "Jew" issues, but just buried their deserved guilt under some unresolved shame. Now it seems fashionable to let all that pent up Jew anger out, seems being pro-Islam sets these folks free.

[_Stormin_]

If ya wanna know what Hillary's presidency would have been like; look at Merkel.

It might be a tangent, but it's the truth.