Old and also suffering from astigmatism.. I tried a 1x4 on my house rifle and went back to a RDS. To me even a true 1X with illumination gives up too much to the RDS with a fuzzy dot at anything under 75-100 yards.
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Old and also suffering from astigmatism.. I tried a 1x4 on my house rifle and went back to a RDS. To me even a true 1X with illumination gives up too much to the RDS with a fuzzy dot at anything under 75-100 yards.
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Same here. I had a few H1’s that were 4X then went to a 1-4 Accupoint. I never notice the grapes in training only at the range. I’ve played with a EO Tech ,owner one. Good luck.Originally Posted by GH41
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"Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree
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I have astigmatism in both eyes. I’ve never had an issue with aimpoints. Yes, they have a slight starburst. Doesn’t matter under most circumstances.
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OP - how are you correcting your astigmatism? I've looked into this a lot - as I have severe astigmatism (and several other vision issues). My ophthalmologist told me that as long as you have your astigmatism corrected correctly - there should be no issue. I agree. As I approach needing a new prescription - I notice the starburst. Once I have my updated glasses - back to a dot. He also said that for many folks you cannot fully correct with contacts. I don't know - as I refuse to wear contacts. With my glasses and a correct prescription - I'm a happy camper. So - have you confirmed that your current prescription is correct?
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I've been an aimpoint user for probably 25 years (starting with the aimpoint 1000), and have astigmatism/near sightedness etc. Basically crap vision. But, as I'm getting older, presbyopia is now becoming a factor - eye fatigue. It's hard to focus for long on near and far objects. I'm going to need bifocals if I still want to focus on my pistol front sight and see far stuff clearly.
The aimpoints have always worked well for me out to 200-300 yards (depending on the target). Up close, within 50 yards, I'd say they're still the best option. Under 25 and the aimpoint is unbeatable for speed. Now, as my eyes grow older, it's not the dot shape that bothers me - I've always dealt with a non-perfect dot - it's that I can't see the target as clearly anymore. Especially beyond 100 yards. So, target ID becomes an issue.
This is where I'm really starting to appreciate the clarity and magnification that a 1-4x offers. It may not be as fast up close, and it's less forgiving of imperfect cheek weld or eye relief, but as a general use optic (5-300 yards), I'd have to pick the 1-4x because it enables me to see both the target and the dot/reticle clearly, which I can no longer do with a RDS. It's a compromise, yes, but one that works better for me now that I'm older, than when I was younger. Another factor is that the P4xi I'm using has a quick-adjust diopter ring that I use to compensate for my prescription if it's a bit outdated.
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A little offtopic, but thought it might help you to know that Mas Ayoob once mentioned something about a lot of serious pistol competitors who wear bifocals--and a doc I know through AOPA mentioned pilots with same--having the lenses set up reversed from normal top and bottom-lens roles.
Tagged for subscription--I'm not astigmatic, but I am functionally blind without very-high-index lenses (my good eye is 20/400 uncorrected, and for comparison worst allowable for USAF aircrew even as cargo-hold handlers is 20/200 before correction in the bad eye; some of my college range-buddies who were LEO's used to joke about "blind kid shoots by sense of smell"--in case of Bump In The Night I don't even take 'em off to sleep, just long enough to clean 'em when I wake up), so interaction between sighting systems and crappy-ass eyes is a personal concern for me too.
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You can correct it to a particular optic but it doesn't work across the board. I had special ~21" focal glasses made for pistol / rifle and they do not work for any of my RDS. My distance glasses work better. I recently put a Trijicon RMR on a Canik SFX and to my surprise, still couldn't use my near focus glasses. The dot looks pretty good using my distance glasses though. My contacts do ok until I tip my head and they start to reorient themselves.
I've mentioned in another thread about prism optics. Prisms should work well for anyone with astigmatism but they are heavy. I have not been tough on my Vortex so can't comment on durability.
I sent in my EOTech which still makes me sick. That dot was crisp. Vortex now makes a real holographic sight called the Razor AMG UG-1. I'm anxious to give it a try. These are the only true holograms I can think of.
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My contact lens prescription is 1.25 so I don't require much. I don't have diagnosed astigmatism and never knew it was an issue to me until I bought my first Aimpoint.
Unfortunately at the price point of around $400, there doesn't seem to be anything that comes close to the rugged durability and dependability of the Aimpoint PRO. It would be nice if one of the bigger OEMs would make a 1x Prism red dot similar to the Vortex Spitfire AR. Unfortunately, call me snobby or whatever, but I'm not going to put my family's security in the hands of a $200 Vortex optic.
Until something else comes to market it looks like my best option is to push forward with the Aimpoint and deal with the bit of star bursting I see.
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That all sounds farmiliar. The eye fatigue really stinks.
I remember reading about that years ago in one of his magazine articles.
"Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree
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