Try shooting out of the notch and holding the top of the front sight @ C.O.M. You can determine how much the top of the front sight is held over the rear sight at a given range through experimentation.Originally Posted by MSparks909
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Try shooting out of the notch and holding the top of the front sight @ C.O.M. You can determine how much the top of the front sight is held over the rear sight at a given range through experimentation.
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Elmer Keith had horizontal, gold bars installed of FS on some of his revolvers to accomplish this.
It works (easier on an N frame S&W with Patridge FS than a Tritium/FO on a P-35 BHP/1911/Glock).
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Eurodriver, thanks for the vid. We have steel at 25 - 50 - 100 yards. Once you start shooting your pistols, temptation always gets the best of you. But I have never taken it seriously past 50, guess I gotta get my game on. Also, that being said, I'll have to pony up with some Gold dots or Federal HST's to be serious. Shit 115 grain is not the ideal.
What is the holdover at 100? Trying to get an idea. I think this a perfect application for an RMR, which I don't have. Note to self!
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Two LAV advanced Handgun classes I was eliminated from the walk back drill at the 110y line the first time and 100y line the second time. I guess I got worse at the second glass. I cheat tho; I shot the class using Wolf 115gr to save money but when we did the walk back drill(s) I switched to 147gr Freedom Munitions lol.
Ive never tried anything past those distances. I do have access to a 200y range but can't place steel any closer than 200y and I only have a 10" round plate for rifle shooting. Maybe I'll try it!
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The holdover isn't as much as you'd think. Aiming at the head or neck of a silhouette target typically results in torso hits.
The 115+P+ had about 3" less drop at 100 yards compared to the 147 grain HST.
Last edited by MisterHelix; 10-11-17 at 10:48.
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That’s what I use at 100 yards, about an 8” drop with standard 9 mm (non plus P).
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Full sized IPSC steel plate and I hold right on the head and get upper center hits. My son holds our family record.. 10 of 15 out of a box stock Glock 19, standing, two hand unsupported at 100. He makes 200's as well, but the hit ratio drops below 50%.
We shoot at those distances quite a bit, especially when we get bored while our buddies sight in their hunting rifles. They never cease to be amazed you can do that with a Glock, much less a handgun.
Last edited by AKDoug; 10-11-17 at 17:41.
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What a great and timely thread! I've been regularly practicing at 25 yards and 50 yards with a G17. Gonna work on 100 yards next as I'm shooting in a competition in a few weeks and the rumor is there will be a 100 yd pistol shot to make. Anyone have data out to 100 using 124 gr HST's?
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Give MEN 124gr or Federal AE (red box) 124gr a try before you waste good defensive ammo on it.
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I shoot 1/4, 1/3, 1/2 and 1 full sight over the top of the rear using a bone stock Glock 22 with factory night sights. Maybe a person could increase the hit percentage at 200 meters with the Elmer Keith modification.
The bottom line is that you train that you are not out of the fight at distances out to 200 meters when armed with a pistol.
Last edited by T2C; 10-11-17 at 22:06.
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