Larue Predatobr vs LMT Mws which is the better all around gun?

[lrdchaos]

Looking to pick up a 308 AR, I’m looking at the predatobr and Lmt mws with 18” barrels. Which one is more accurate? Reliable? Overall better fit and finish?

[PrarieDog]

Larue has a heck of a deal now on the assemble yourself rifle. Can't say no to that. Great quality at a reasonable price.
http://www.larue.com/larue-ultimate-762-260-upper-kit

[WTF?Shane]

Larue Tactical is known for their accuracy with the OBR. No experience with the 7.62 variants, but have a friend with the PredatOBR 5.56 and I have a PredatAR 5.56. Excellent guns.

With the MWS I have shot sub MOA in both .308Win and 6.5CM. I haven't had any hiccups with it. I try to baby it, so fit and finish is excellent. With a magnified optic on it, it is a pig. This isn't something for running and gunning.

Both are or should be great guns and I'm sure you'll be happy with either.

[skimbleshanks]

I'm real happy with my Larue OBR. It could be lighter though. The lmt was on my list while I was looking for my 308. I wanted my 308AR to fit closer to my bolt guns than my carbine so the Larue won.

[Skyyr]

Two fundamentally different guns, at least in the roles they were intended to fill.

I've got a decent amount of time behind an MWS, so I can speak directly to that. The MWS is more of a DMR than anything else. Be warned, it is heavy - not outrageously so in absolute terms of weight, but the distribution of it makes it rather hard to use in a battle rifle role. It does have actual fielding from a few teams and militaries, so it's a proven design. Quick-change barrels are nice if you're running multiple calibers (such as .308 and 6.5CM). It's MOA-accurate with good ammo (stainless barrels seem to be slightly sub-MOA), but nothing spectacular.

The OBR is more of a battle rifle, but with higher accuracy (for disclosure, I have not had a chance to shoot one myself - just seen enough to know it's true). It's lighter, reportedly more accurate, and has tighter tolerances than the MWS. There was a discussion and one of the SME's mentioned that the tighter tolerances of the OBR were the likely reason for the increased performance... and also were likely less reliable under usage in actual field conditions. It's not proven (fielded) in the same way the LMT has been, but unless you're doing bad things to bad people in bad places on a regular basis, it probably won't matter.

I think the LMT has more solid innovation, but the OBR definitely handles better. But then again, it's a DMR vs battle rifle comparison.

My .02: I'd save up and get a KAC SR25. It's lightyears beyond both of them, in my opinion.

[Pappabear]

Two fundamentally different guns, at least in the roles they were intended to fill.

I've got a decent amount of time behind an MWS, so I can speak directly to that. The MWS is more of a DMR than anything else. Be warned, it is heavy - not outrageously so in absolute terms of weight, but the distribution of it makes it rather hard to use in a battle rifle role. It does have actual fielding from a few teams and militaries, so it's a proven design. Quick-change barrels are nice if you're running multiple calibers (such as .308 and 6.5CM). It's MOA-accurate with good ammo (stainless barrels seem to be slightly sub-MOA), but nothing spectacular.

The OBR is more of a battle rifle, but with higher accuracy (for disclosure, I have not had a chance to shoot one myself - just seen enough to know it's true). It's lighter, reportedly more accurate, and has tighter tolerances than the MWS. There was a discussion and one of the SME's mentioned that the tighter tolerances of the OBR were the likely reason for the increased performance... and also were likely less reliable under usage in actual field conditions. It's not proven (fielded) in the same way the LMT has been, but unless you're doing bad things to bad people in bad places on a regular basis, it probably won't matter.

I think the LMT has more solid innovation, but the OBR definitely handles better. But then again, it's a DMR vs battle rifle comparison.

My .02: I'd save up and get a KAC SR25. It's lightyears beyond both of them, in my opinion.

Im an MWS owner and I too think Larue makes a fine rifle. For me it was MWS. Skyrr, why do you say KAC is light years better? I have heard better, but never light years so please advise. I think when LMT launched every body was saying "just about the same gun for half price", but that hype has settled down. Im a KAC fan and would definitely consider one if I could get $$,$$$k a year in schooling for my kids done.

I have a fine appreciation for well built stuff and I know many people that own them are way impressed so hit me up.

PB

[Firefly]

It may not be totally comparable but I have an ECC and my bro has an LMT.

The only real difference is weight. Both get more or less the same groups with FGMM. Well within the degree of accuracy anyone would want from a semi.

My only "niggle" is that the LMT is bit heavy.

I have no point of reference for an OBR but have heard good things from good people.

I dont think you could really go wrong either way. I liked the LMT MWS.

[tom12.7]

Looking to pick up a 308 AR, I’m looking at the predatobr and Lmt mws with 18” barrels. Which one is more accurate? Reliable? Overall better fit and finish?

I have and use a lot 7.62 based AR's, normally 16" or 20" based, not 18" based. For myself, I've had some good groupings from Larue, but base function is important. A small group on paper is meaningless to me if I can not rely on that. I do not currently have any of the Larue line for these anymore, but I'm not totally opposed to trying them in the future. Products can and do evolve with consumer demand.