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    Actually artistic types arent bad.
    Not all thespians are boy lovers.

    I miss the old Cannon Films. They were Jingoistic Right Wing vigilante/commando/kill em ups funded by two dudes from Israel.

    Or the low budget 'Nam films like 84 Charlie MoPic, Platoon Leader, and Siege at Firebase Gloria. Or Uncommon Valor.

    Or the dangerous films like Red Dawn. In retrospect, as an adult, a land invasion of the US would be suicide but it was a response to The Day After. It was meant to portray Americans as willing to be guerillas if need be instead of just giving up.

    Or the super dangerous films like Bad Lieutenant. To this day the church scene gets to me. Or King of New York.

    But what has done it in were the money people and the drug people and the predators.

    Think back on your favorite films...no matter how violent Why did you like them?

    Because they had a moral and took you away from your troubles and gave you a character you liked.

    Now? SSDD with preaching. I dont care how CIA/KGB she is....she aint spin kicking dudes through windows.

    Atomic Blonde gets a pass because Charlize Theron is 6 foot tall and got her ass beat until she gassed up that CZ75 again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You know what.

    I hope this breaks hollywood.

    I hope there is a renaissance of indie film and people who want to tell entertaining stories instead of a sex mill for rich perverts who try to brainwash people subliminally with mixed messages while predatoring on naive people who wanna act.

    I think a severe guerilla indie movement would allow for stories far outside the narrative.

    And nothing they make is good (except Blade Runner)

    Even Star Wars sucks (except Rogue One)
    Between this & upcoming scandals...of which Im PRAYING the pedophiles are outed finally...and the sorry assed bunch of so-called films out right now..its hopefully a one-two punch that will let MUCH NEEDED air of of the Godless, un-patriotic, egotistical, holier-than-thou blowhards that IS hollywood. Its a much deserved & needed come-uppance. Ive been out of work a few weeks recouperating from a small srgery, and Ive had a free movie pass for some time. Now, Ive tried three times before to find ONE thing worth getting up and going to see. NADA. I wouldnt walk outside to see ANYTHING out right now. MAYBE the Death Wish remake with Willis...maybe, when it comes out. The current explosion of horror flicks to me is a indicator that hollywood can only come up with cheap, bawdy, gory crap thats been done & re-done numerous times and literally is not able to come up with anything truly new, fresh and/or watchable. Im noticing the same actors being used over & over & over too, like Damon, Blanchett, Affleck..you know..COVERUP CRONIES I call em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Actually artistic types arent bad.
    Not all thespians are boy lovers.

    I miss the old Cannon Films. They were Jingoistic Right Wing vigilante/commando/kill em ups funded by two dudes from Israel.
    If you have not seen it, you must find and watch "Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films." It is one of the most amazing documentaries about film I have ever seen. It's worth buying on DVD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Or the low budget 'Nam films like 84 Charlie MoPic, Platoon Leader, and Siege at Firebase Gloria. Or Uncommon Valor.

    Or the dangerous films like Red Dawn. In retrospect, as an adult, a land invasion of the US would be suicide but it was a response to The Day After. It was meant to portray Americans as willing to be guerillas if need be instead of just giving up.
    I'd only add Amerika (1987), most people found it boring and too long as there were no gun fights and it starts AFTER the action. But some moments were truly frightening, especially those that have in many ways already come to pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Or the super dangerous films like Bad Lieutenant. To this day the church scene gets to me. Or King of New York.

    But what has done it in were the money people and the drug people and the predators.

    Think back on your favorite films...no matter how violent Why did you like them?

    Because they had a moral and took you away from your troubles and gave you a character you liked.

    Now? SSDD with preaching. I dont care how CIA/KGB she is....she aint spin kicking dudes through windows.

    Atomic Blonde gets a pass because Charlize Theron is 6 foot tall and got her ass beat until she gassed up that CZ75 again
    Savior, amazing film but absolutely soul killing. Then add every vigilante movie from the 70s and 80s ever made starting with Death Wish. I honestly kinda miss the old New York where Central Park was a potential killing field after dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed L. View Post
    Regarding the Corieys (Cory Feldman and the late Cory Haim), there was a book titled Coreymania written by Cory Feldman and a ghostwriter. According to this book Corey Haim was sexually confused as a result of an encounter when he was a child actor on a movie set where an older male actor who is now a huge star coerced him into having sex, claim, "this is something done by all big Hollywood actors" or something to that effect. Take a look at the cast of the movie Lucas and tell me which of them has come out with having HIV in the last year or so.
    Charlie Sheen?!? Do you really think he's a pedo? Because he seems to have very specific tastes and if he was into kids he'd have more sleepovers than Michael Jackson. I just don't really see it. If you said Tom Cruise I could totally buy it, but Sheen, despite his numerous faults seems to be 100% devoted to slutty chicks and he is the only person I'd honestly believe got HIV from drug use and / or heterosexual transmission.

    He's also a completely unstable wild card so if he was even bi curious about guys it would be endless scandal after scandal, he'd have a rep like George Michael, in fact he'd probably be in a temporary relationship with George Michael. And if he was a closet pedo, I don't think he could keep it in the closet longer than a week.

    He's a crash and burn artist like no other and somehow keeps walking away from last weeks wreckage mostly intact. Can't last forever but it's almost impressive.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    There is hope for Hollywood. Saw "Mountain Between Us" last night. Great movie and not a thing I can find wrong with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Charlie Sheen?!? Do you really think he's a pedo? Because he seems to have very specific tastes and if he was into kids he'd have more sleepovers than Michael Jackson. I just don't really see it. If you said Tom Cruise I could totally buy it, but Sheen, despite his numerous faults seems to be 100% devoted to slutty chicks and he is the only person I'd honestly believe got HIV from drug use and / or heterosexual transmission.

    He's also a completely unstable wild card so if he was even bi curious about guys it would be endless scandal after scandal, he'd have a rep like George Michael, in fact he'd probably be in a temporary relationship with George Michael. And if he was a closet pedo, I don't think he could keep it in the closet longer than a week.

    He's a crash and burn artist like no other and somehow keeps walking away from last weeks wreckage mostly intact. Can't last forever but it's almost impressive.
    I really don't know. I was putting 2+2 together. The Corymania book mentioned that it was a star in the movie Lucas, and Charlie Sheen wen't public with being HIV positive-supposedly to thwart someone who was blackmailing him about his non-hetero secrets. You can never tell in that town or with these types of stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed L. View Post
    I really don't know. I was putting 2+2 together. The Corymania book mentioned that it was a star in the movie Lucas, and Charlie Sheen wen't public with being HIV positive-supposedly to thwart someone who was blackmailing him about his non-hetero secrets. You can never tell in that town or with these types of stories.
    Anything is possible. But if you told me he raped a goat at a petting zoo because he was high on crack I could more easily imagine that than him being a pedo. Awkward defending him but most pedos don't get involved with the likes of Ginger Lynn. You get involved with Ginger Lynn because you are really, really, really into girls and you prefer them on the slutty side. I also don't think he has the intelligence or long game to run a PR screen like that. He seems terribly impulsive. But again, anything is possible.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed L. View Post
    Regarding the Corieys (Cory Feldman and the late Cory Haim), there was a book titled Coreymania written by Cory Feldman and a ghostwriter. According to this book Corey Haim was sexually confused as a result of an encounter when he was a child actor on a movie set where an older male actor who is now a huge star coerced him into having sex, claim, "this is something done by all big Hollywood actors" or something to that effect. Take a look at the cast of the movie Lucas and tell me which of them has come out with having HIV in the last year or so.
    Ah hah, Carlos Estevez aka Charlie Sheen.

    When he was a child he and his brother would spend a lot of time around Hollywood types on their father's film sets. During an interview Charlie Sheen told a story when Martin Sheen was filming Apocalypse Now in the Philippines him and his brother would hang out with Lawrence Fishburne. Fishburne was all of about 17 and would take Charlie and Emilio who were tweens to brothels to get high and get laid. No doubt old Charlie was abused by these types when he was young, this sort of thing is a learned behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    Actually artistic types arent bad.
    Not all thespians are boy lovers.

    I miss the old Cannon Films. They were Jingoistic Right Wing vigilante/commando/kill em ups funded by two dudes from Israel.

    Or the low budget 'Nam films like 84 Charlie MoPic, Platoon Leader, and Siege at Firebase Gloria. Or Uncommon Valor.

    Or the dangerous films like Red Dawn. In retrospect, as an adult, a land invasion of the US would be suicide but it was a response to The Day After. It was meant to portray Americans as willing to be guerillas if need be instead of just giving up.

    Or the super dangerous films like Bad Lieutenant. To this day the church scene gets to me. Or King of New York.

    But what has done it in were the money people and the drug people and the predators.

    Think back on your favorite films...no matter how violent Why did you like them?

    Because they had a moral and took you away from your troubles and gave you a character you liked.

    Now? SSDD with preaching. I dont care how CIA/KGB she is....she aint spin kicking dudes through windows.

    Atomic Blonde gets a pass because Charlize Theron is 6 foot tall and got her ass beat until she gassed up that CZ75 again
    "A Golan / Globus Production"

    Lol

    Great list you compiled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    If you have not seen it, you must find and watch "Electric Boogaloo: The Wild, Untold Story of Cannon Films." It is one of the most amazing documentaries about film I have ever seen. It's worth buying on DVD.



    I'd only add Amerika (1987), most people found it boring and too long as there were no gun fights and it starts AFTER the action. But some moments were truly frightening, especially those that have in many ways already come to pass.



    Savior, amazing film but absolutely soul killing. Then add every vigilante movie from the 70s and 80s ever made starting with Death Wish. I honestly kinda miss the old New York where Central Park was a potential killing field after dark.
    I'll add one. Luc Besson's 'The Professional'. I own multiple versions of it, the theatrical release is my favorite and fits the bill for artistic and chock ful o action.
    That said the Directors Cut of 'Leon' has 15 minutes or so of additional footage with the underage girl / older man angle, and portrays Leon as mentally under developed. Interesting for the main release the taboo story line was cut, yet filmed and everyone (industry) seemed to think it was a good idea (until unfavorable public screenings).

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