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    JFK docs to be released

    An intel dump on the JFK assassination is apparently about to take place via Trump Admin. Personally, doubt any smoking gun info will be in them that changes what is known, but the feds resisting it only adds to the distrust people have over the accuracy of their conclusion LHO acted alone:

    Trump plans to release JFK assassination documents despite concerns from federal agencies

    President Trump announced Saturday morning that he planned to release the tens of thousands of never-before-seen documents left in the files related to President John F. Kennedy’s assassination held by the National Archives and Records Administration.

    “Subject to the receipt of further information, I will be allowing, as President, the long blocked and classified JFK FILES to be opened,” Trump tweeted early Saturday.

    Experts have been speculating for weeks about whether Trump would disclose the documents. The 1992 Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act required that the millions of pages, many of them contained in CIA and FBI documents, be published in 25 years — by Thursday. Over the years, the National Archives has released most of the documents, either in full or partially redacted.

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    But seriously.....I personally think Oswald was a wackadoo and I actually sorta subscribe to that one scene forensics guy who said one of the Secret Service had an AD with the M16 which was the "magic bullet".

    It'd be interesting to find out for sure.

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    It was 54 freaking years ago, most of those "involved" are dead and what national secrets can be exposed which are current? Answer: NOTHING!

    There has got to be a reasonable time limit for "classified" stuff to still be considered verboten to speak of. I hear an occasional 'Nam vet say "I can't talk about it, what we did was classified." Okay, I get it......assuming you aren't full of shit (which is always a distinct possibility), you were told to never talk about X and you are just being duty-bound about it. No problem. But seriously? It's 2017 and we know all about the cross-border ops MACV-SOG ran, OPLAN 34, things like that. The war is long over, and you were there half a century ago. Maybe it's their way of still feel like they're holding a secret or something, I dunno.
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    I thought everything that was expected to have serious information was already released and most of it turned out to be nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I thought everything that was expected to have serious information was already released and most of it turned out to be nothing.
    I read an article that surmised one of the tidbits was the agreement we had with the Mexican government at the time to spy on people---like Lee Harvey Oswald---when they were in Mexico. So what? I can see "hiding" that for a few decades, but > 50 years?

    I also read that it is suspected that many documents were destroyed right before they were mandated to be turned into the National Archives.

    I recall watching a show years ago which purported to say that LBJ was informed of the following: the likely genesis of this murder was Oswald, but that his Soviet background and attempts to contact the Cuban embassy in Mexcio City [and perhaps other documents confirming this soon to be released?] showed it was revenge for the numerous U.S. attempts to kill Castro. LBJ essentially said [paraphrasing here] "If this information is released to the U.S. public there will be demands for military retaliation against Cuba, and they don't know about the secret agreement we made with the Russians back during the Missile Crisis about not attacking Cuba. This could cause WWIII."

    Something like that maybe? Like we're gonna attack Cuba for a plot 54 years ago, POTUS being the target or not. Maybe 10 or even 20 years later, but > 50? Nah, ain't seeing it.
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    I think Oswald had lots of motivations and was probably groomed by those from other organization / countries without his understanding, but at the end of the day I don't think it went beyond Oswald as far as the actual shooting. I think Oswald was shot so he didn't inadvertently implicate others who might have supported his actions and contributed without his direct knowledge.

    Once you get past the "interesting idea" of the larger conspiracy and realize Oswald was perfectly capable of the shots delivered and the complexity of the suggested shadow government operation, one has to deal with the fact that it probably happened more or less as described.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think Oswald had lots of motivations and was probably groomed by those from other organization / countries without his understanding, but at the end of the day I don't think it went beyond Oswald as far as the actual shooting. I think Oswald was shot so he didn't inadvertently implicate others who might have supported his actions and contributed without his direct knowledge.

    Once you get past the "interesting idea" of the larger conspiracy and realize Oswald was perfectly capable of the shots delivered and the complexity of the suggested shadow government operation, one has to deal with the fact that it probably happened more or less as described.
    Agreed, and for the longest time I figured it was Oswald's idea all along. Maybe that idea wasn't just his? That is what perhaps will be confirmed or raised in it's suspicion level? Who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I think Oswald had lots of motivations and was probably groomed by those from other organization / countries without his understanding, but at the end of the day I don't think it went beyond Oswald as far as the actual shooting. I think Oswald was shot so he didn't inadvertently implicate others who might have supported his actions and contributed without his direct knowledge.

    Once you get past the "interesting idea" of the larger conspiracy and realize Oswald was perfectly capable of the shots delivered and the complexity of the suggested shadow government operation, one has to deal with the fact that it probably happened more or less as described.
    yup the ND could be real to ? but the gov has been grooming and making others do things for so many reasons

    this is just like how many bombers have the gov caught that all turned out to be setup by the gov itself !

    so many places we go in and have dirty work done by others with the CIA incharge setting up the actions that become things like murder torture and so on

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaegerOne View Post
    After all these years, it doesn't matter much anymore.
    While I tend to agree with that assessment, for many Americans any bad revelations will just be another example of how corrupt our government was and still remains to this day.

    I am in the camp that believes Oswald was the only shooter, and that the magic bullet was actually an ND from the agent on the rear of the limo. (Mortal Error: The Shot That Killed JFK by Bonar Menninger)

    That being said, I got no idea who put him up to it, if anyone, or if Jack Ruby was sent by the mob to kill him (Oswald).
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