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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    Trump should just preemptively pardon whoever Mueller charges, and make it well known that he will going forward. At this point this investigation is clearly a political witch hunt and nothing more. Screw Mueller, he’s a crooked ****, make all his efforts all for naught.
    As long as the charges have nothing to do with Russians,I agree. Extend out the argument that they have started that the establishment doesn’t go after actual Russian involvement as in the Uranium deal, but goes after the outsiders for political reasons.

    That and if there is a Trump obstruction charge here, which I highly doubt, they have some, ‘splaning to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coal Dragger View Post
    Trump should just preemptively pardon whoever Mueller charges, and make it well known that he will going forward. At this point this investigation is clearly a political witch hunt and nothing more. Screw Mueller, he’s a crooked ****, make all his efforts all for naught.
    What really needs to happen is to get Sessions to appoint a Special Prosecutor to go after Hillary/DNC.

    Democrats will suddenly be in favor of ending all special prosecutors.

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    The Sunday shows will nut all over themselves this weekend!
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    What really needs to happen is to get Sessions to appoint a Special Prosecutor to go after Hillary/DNC.

    Democrats will suddenly be in favor of ending all special prosecutors.
    We both know this will never happen.

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    It's all in the timing.
    We've been waiting to hear something, anything, for months now, actually closing in on a year.
    When the details begin to show that this was funded by Hillary's campaign, when the ties between uranium, donations to the Clinton foundation and Bills fees for speeches in Russia become news, well suddenly Mueller's going to indict someone.
    In politics nothing is a mere coincidence.
    The timing of this is amazing, it simply couldn't be better for he Democratic party.

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    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopol...a9#.wcGBYO26Ea

    Maybe someone like Euro can shed some light on this kind of stuff, but what I don’t like on the surface is that these things are from 2012-13, were investigated and nothing happened. Now, because of Meuller’s resources and focus, there will be charges?

    Lot’s of people say that if you look closely enough, everyone breaks multiple Fed rules a day. Plus, it is Ukrainians, not Russians. If Manafort was playing funky with money, I’ll be the first to damn him. This financial BS is how a lot of these types get ahead, all the way up to Apple and Microsoft. IF this is just warmed up seconds?

    ETA: how much has Mueller spent and he is found $3 million worth of suspicious money transfers?
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    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

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    I have a bit of an idea of how that might work.
    A political adviser or campaign manager working in multiple countries is likely to move money around a bit. On one hand it might look shady from the outside, but is it really any different than an American Company keeping money moving outside the United States to avoid paying taxes on it?
    If for instance I work for the POTUS as an adviser on Russian Politics and work in and out of Russia and several other Countries and ask my payments to be sent overseas is that not legal?
    If I work for the Russians at the same time, why wouldn't I ask the money they pay me to be sent to the same or even different offshore accounts? Id that not legal?
    Now if I decide to purchase something in a third party Country I would move money from one of my accounts to another to make that purchase. Is that not legal?
    Now someone in my immediate circle of business partners or acquaintances, gets caught with their hand in the cookie jar. Am I guilty by association?

    Some of this stuff could be legal, some could be operating in a gray area and some could be illegal in some Countries I work in, but perfectly legal in others. You're fine until the Witch Hunt begins, then you might end up spending quite a bit of that money you've got staying out of jail.

    All that being said;
    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politic...er-indictments
    I would say for the above listed reasons Manafort and Flynn are being charged tomorrow. Being charged might actually mean little due to the evidence would require a bit more scrutiny and the tie would go to the runner.
    They would have to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt and it is likely very hard for them to do that.

    If what has occurred in the last few days proves anything, it is that Mueller has been got. CNN is a perfect tool for the Socialist Progressives in the DNC and most of all the leaks still exist and they are being allowed to because, well, it works well for the Left.
    Mueller should have been canned and run out on a rail when these damned leaks started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    I'd put money on Manafort, and nothing to do with Russian Collusion.
    Looks like someone got some money from somewhere they shouldn’t have.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...l-counsel.html

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    As long as these don't have anything to do with the 2016 Campaign, have these guys plead nolo contendere and then have Trump pardon them with the message that Mueller should be investigating the 2016 election and Russians, not 2013 and Americans. Stop wasting time and resources on anything else.
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    Which begs the question, how DUMB was Manafort to not see this coming? If I were him, as soon as the "arrest coming Monday" leak dropped Friday I'd be on a plane for somewhere with no extradition... Uranium One/Rosatom is big enough to need its own investigation, not Mueller and his team of Clinton Crime Family toadies and hacks rolling over from Election '16 to that so they can whitewash it.
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