Blast Forwad Device

**Junkie** · 11-06-17, 11:23

Originally Posted by moonshot

Not sure if you are referreing to my OP, but if so, I wasn't wearing plugs at the time, just muffs, and the seal on the right side was broken from contact with my rifle stock just as I took the shot. These were older muffs, with "fat" ear cups. I have since learned my lesson, and I run foam plugs (typcially 29db 3Ms or 33db Howard Leight Max) along with muffs no matter what or where I am shooting. I have a set of Walker 31db muffs and a set of Howard Leight Impact Sport electronic muffs rated at 22bd - both thin enough to not be a problem with my rifle stock. The Sordins were always out of my price range, but I may have to rethink this.

Having read all the responces here, I think the rational for my OP was not well thought out. The BFD seems to do a good job of reducing the debris kickback, concussion and "crack" when outdoors, but aren't going to do what I had wanted indoors. If I don't want a suppressor and I want to protect my hearing should I ever need to use my firearm indoors, it looks like I need to invest in high end electronic muffs and keep them ready for immediate use.

If I have time to get to my rifle, I should have time to throw on a set of muffs.

I guess I interpreted your post wrong - I thought you were doubled up and broke a seal, rather than muffs only and broke a seal.

I see a lot of people who don't insert their ear plugs anywhere near far enough (most of it sticks out) and then aren't happy with how much their ears ring.

**moonshot** · 11-06-17, 14:02

Yeah, I wasn't very clear in my OP. It does look like I was wearing plugs and muffs, but that revelation came later. At the time my muff seal broke, I was using my original handgun-era muffs with fat ear pieces and I was shooting my first AR. Bad combination.

Following this episode, I bought the Walkers with their high db rating for shooting on my own and the Howard Leight electronic muffs for use in classes, but always now with plugs (and I try very hard to put them in properly). Also, I made sure both muffs had relatively thin ear peices and didn't interefere with my AR stock. They're not perfect, but I'm not sure what is.

**rauchman** · 11-06-17, 20:24

Originally Posted by Clint

It sounds like our BRT Covert Comp would meet your needs nicely.

As mentioned before, they do a nice job of knocking the blast down, even on a short barrel.

We routinely shoot with just earplugs and it is a non-issue.

There is no noticeable increase in gas drive with the Covert Comp.

For legal purposes, is this listed as a comp or a flash hider? I live in NJ so for me it matters.

**feraldog** · 11-07-17, 08:33

Originally Posted by rauchman

For legal purposes, is this listed as a comp or a flash hider? I live in NJ so for me it matters.

seems they only call it a Comp on their site. "flashing hider" isn't mentioned as far as i can see:

http://www.blackrivertactical.com/co...5/covert-comp/

**Junkie** · 11-07-17, 09:23

Originally Posted by feraldog

seems they only call it a Comp on their site. "flashing hider" isn't mentioned as far as i can see:

http://www.blackrivertactical.com/co...5/covert-comp/

While they don't specifically say flash hider in as many words, they do say:

It provides low light performance nearly as good as the common A2 style muzzle device.

That sounds to me like it's a flash hider.

**feraldog** · 11-07-17, 09:32

yes, it may function as that, but they don't call it that.

not knowing how NJ law reads, that might be an important distinction.

**Junkie** · 11-07-17, 09:53

I don't know NJ law either, but in CA if it's advertised as reducing flash it counts as one. While they don't say the magic words, I wouldn't risk it here.

**feraldog** · 11-07-17, 09:58

Originally Posted by Junkie

I don't know NJ law either, but in CA if it's advertised as reducing flash it counts as one. While they don't say the magic words, I wouldn't risk it here.

good to know