SURG roundup

**RAM Engineer** · 11-10-17, 02:37

I’ve been reading what little there is to know about the Suppressed Upper Receiver Group testing going on by Crane for USSOCOM. For those of you unaware, the majority of online knowledge can be found at Soldier Systems, with some to be found at The Firearm Blog.

http://soldiersystems.net/?s=SURG+

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/?...er+group+SURG+

So I thought I would create a crowd-sourced list of all known SURGs, commercially available production units, prototypes, rumors, what have you. Also I’m interested in hearing any first-hand reviews of any items listed. This is not intended to be a debate about the UTILITY of such upper, nor would I like it to turn into a 5.56 vs 300 Blackout vs blah blah blah.

Ones I’ve heard about (in no particular order):

Gemtech Integra
https://gemtech.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Integra
https://youtu.be/IMb6et2PW2U

Armageddon Tactical/SEG
http://jerkingthetrigger.com/2016/07...rg-submission/

Larue Tactical
https://www.larue.com/products/larue...eid=a10449a8aa
http://www.alloutdoor.com/2017/10/23...arue-tactical/

Nous Defions (Arsenal Democracy)
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qA_sJuJyXJQ

Aero Precision/SilencerCo/Ballistic Advantage
https://aeroprecisionusa.com/catalog.../?q=Silencerco

Daniel Defense
https://danieldefense.com/firearms/d...fense-isr.html

SAW
http://www.specializedarmament.com/a...4x-suppressed/

LMT(?)
http://soldiersystems.net/2016/04/28...urg-candidate/

NEMO Arms (coming soon)
http://nemoarms.com/news/syn-cor

Thunder Beast Arms Dedicated Suppressed Upper (DSU)
https://thunderbeastarms.com/products/dsu

Sig Sauer SUR300 (only available in 300 Blackout as of now)
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ig-sauer-2018/

Barrett SURG Candidate Prototype
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...dds-valkyries/

**RAM Engineer** · 11-11-17, 11:08

Added YouTube video link by Gemtech with more detailed info on Integra. Some neat tricks in there. I’m really looking forward to trying one and HOPEFULLY seeing other folks post their info in this thread.

**RAM Engineer** · 12-19-17, 08:52

Added: Nemo Arms apparently decided to go it alone after working with Gemtech on the Integra. Nemo's submission was a piston/blowback hybrid and will be forthcoming apparently. Link to NA's press release added, and Nemo name removed from Gemtech Integra section.

**StevieJ309** · 12-19-17, 13:02

Better look at LMT's offering:

IIRC they released some on the commercial market not too long ago.

**RAM Engineer** · 12-20-17, 08:15

That LMT CSW looks super cool, but I don’t think it meets the requirements for the SURG, which I believe was required to be 5.56 and longer (14.5”-16” barrel equivalent overall length). The CSW seems more a competitor to the Q Honey Badger. In that same niche at least.

**RAM Engineer** · 01-02-18, 13:42

Added link to Larue’s SUURG upper sale page, which has various links contained within.

**joeg26er** · 01-02-18, 14:10

Searched but couldn't find weight of Larue SUURG?

**redmist** · 01-04-18, 00:20

Originally Posted by RAM Engineer

Added: Nemo Arms apparently decided to go it alone after working with Gemtech on the Integra. Nemo's submission was a piston/blowback hybrid and will be forthcoming apparently. Link to NA's press release added, and Nemo name removed from Gemtech Integra section.

the original submission (round 1) was more of a NEMO Submission, with Gemtech helping on the suppressor side. The new version from NEMO can be considered a V.2 from that round one submission. I think Gemtech is using the same setup as the NEMO/Gemtech round one, for round two, but not 100%. The internals on the NEMO setup is very interesting. : )