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Why doesn't anyone offer an M1 carbine with a 14.5" barrel and per attach flash hider?
Why doesn't someone offer an ultra light fiberglass stock?
What about a comeback of the 5.7 Johnson? It should perform quite a bit better than a 5.7x28.
I sure wish the HEZI SM-1 bullpup conversion of the M1 carbine had taken off.
Just thinking out loud.
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Choate Machine and Tool has a light weight nylon polymer folding stock, telescoping stock, pistol gripped standard stock, and even a ventilated handguard.
http://www.riflestock.com/store/do/manufacturer/9
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Because there is little profit to be made and ARs do everything better without a bunch of boutique parts.Originally Posted by TED
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Once a company invested in tooling, materials, etc., to manufacture the barrel who would buy a M1 Carbine with a flash hider? How many would they sell?
What stock would sell better than a replica Paratrooper stock?
What niche would the 5.7 Johnson fill that can't be filled with other calibers? IAI made them for a while, but they did not sell well enough to continue producing them.
An original configuration M1 Carbine is desirable to most people who are interested in the carbines. If someone wanted a lighter faster round, they would buy a different carbine in .223 Remington or .22 Magnum.
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Wow!! Spoli sport kill joys!!
It's not a literal tell me why, it is a musing about hmm what if. Gosh Tina!! I'm gonna go practice my Bo staff!!
(Napolean Dynamite, anyone?)
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Everything except weight and envelope size. I've always felt a chopped M1 Carbine with a decent collapsible & folding stock in a hotter chambering would make for a great little HD & truck gun, especially for smaller statured shooters.
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A folding stock M1 might be a little shorter but not going to be much lighter than one of these:
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread...uple-questions
Many tend to forget the light handy rifles the M16/SP1 and XM177/CAR15 were before they morphed into the pigs they are today. What you propose might have made sense when you could get Carbines for half or less than a AR but today good serviceable M1's are expensive, modding them will be expensive, ergonomics are not as good, power is not as good, mags are not as good and AR's just make more sense. Instead of chopping up a Carbine to make a poor substitute for a CAR I would enjoy it for what it is a fun piece of history like the Garand, still effective within it limitations but outclassed by more modern designs.
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The M1 carbine makes a lot of sense with an 18" barrel, walnut stock, Ultimak with AP Micro, and WML for those living in ban states who don't want to deal with neutered ARs.
The trouble is that, as far as I can tell, modern production M1s - and even old military M1s - simply are not that reliable.
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Real unaltered m1 carbines are no longer readily available. Butchering one to accommodate your configuration would be criminal. However, newly manufactured ones like the old iver Johnson's would be fair game. All of the m1 type rifles and carbines are not ideal for optics. Something your configuration would beg for is a red dot. 30 m1 carbine with good hollow points is respectable.
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I had a milsurp Inland that was 100% reliable, once I changed out all the springs with a Wolff kit. I really didn't need it, but $157 through the SO with 3 mags was impossible to pass up. The neighbors kids LOVED shooting it when they were youngsters.
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