What if this whole crusade's a charade?
And behind it all there's a price to be paid
For the blood which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…
OP, I will echo some other users recommendations to get a KAC SR-15 CQB and QDS Suppressor. This is not only an easy, turn key solution, it’s also represents the pinnacle of AR-15 design and product development, and should make admin VERY happy. A KAC SR-15 literally just needs an optic added to make it complete. If you don’t like the A2 grip then add a grip of your liking. Also, if you buy direct from KAC, there LE pricing is very attractive. If you’re agency has any hesitation with your choice, you can always point to the USSS, as they issue SR-15’s.
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Just get a BCM 11.5”...
Their port is on the lower end of the spectrum and they have a proven track record. Not to mention Grant’s pricing at G&R Tactical (especially for leo/mil) is second to none. I would suggest BCM complete A5 lower (factory assembled) and any BCM 11.5” complete upper.
Last edited by sidewaysil80; 11-27-17 at 17:29.
Last edited by daniel87; 11-27-17 at 22:11.
Respectfully, this isn’t true. LE doesn’t need full auto rated bad-a$$ cans that weigh a ton. Virtually every QD centerfire can that isn’t modular or able to be “disassembled for cleaning” is fine. The can will never see more than a few mags at a time, and that’s almost certainly only during training. Light weight, maintaining or improving accuracy, and not vibrating apart (or off, that’s why no direct thread) from being in a rack shift after shift after shift is all that’s needed.
OP, while I would highly recommend the SR-15 like I did above, the FN you specced is a good rifle. A fair portion of the membership base here are moderately autistic and have a tendency worry more about inconsequential stuff like port sizing and buffer weight than actually shooting their guns. FN is a quality, reputable manufacturer and would serve you well.
As far as suppressors, Surefire makes an excellent suppressor at a fairly affordable price point. Buy with confidence.
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This is good advice.
For LE use with 5.56 SBR definitely go with shorter and lighter. Sandman K is a great option. I've seen TREK and TREK-T work well too. just use some locktite.
Surefire and KAC are overpriced and overweight. My friends department uses the socom mini and they like them, but they have had issues with the mount, and they are heavier than the Sandman and Gemtech.
I would highly recommend trying to use some different set ups in a training scenario before buying. There is a TON of bad info online, and it seems like most advice is given by people who either don't own the products they are talking about, and have never really used compared them properly. Try using a TREK-T on a lightweight 11.5 BCM upper and then switch to a surefire can, you will notice a difference in movement. You will not notice a difference in sound or durability for LE use.
I have found many advantages to a lighter can. I can move between targets faster, have faster target acquisition, and can open doors and use my other hand while keeping my rifle in a ready position. Adding only 6-12oz on the end really makes a difference.
Again, for LE use, you are able to inspect/maintain your gear. you will most likely be firing only a few rounds in a bad situation, and only a few mags during training without rest. I would take lightweight and short any day over "military drop me off in nam and never come back for me durability"...
And don't get a full-size can for LE, the newer small cans are still pretty effective now.
Last edited by backpacker; 11-28-17 at 16:23.
Also keep in mind that if you're ultimately able to add a can under policy, it acts as a cantilever on the balance of the rifle. The lighter the better. A lot of people who haven't done it, don't realize how it impacts movement through structures. Worse yet, a multi-hour standoff with an armed and barricaded subject. A heavy can will wear you down more quickly and should you suddenly need to respond, it could impact your performance.
What if this whole crusade's a charade?
And behind it all there's a price to be paid
For the blood which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine…
Scottryan, I tried to send you a message but your inbox is full.
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