Question about Freedom of the Press and current political climate.

[Honu]

Was perusing r/politics on reddit and they are talking about how it is a slam dunk that Trump and his crew are guilty of treason. The new push is that FOX NEWS is complicity and aiding and abetting Trump with all their attacks (based on totally unsubstantiated info in their eyes) on Meuller. Since FOX is helping Trump against their country, the FOX people should be found guilty of treason too.

That is some scary shit. Now I know it is some arm chair commandos, but we've seen that the left is inherently and demonstrably much more violent than the right. Those are some scary comments.

Funny how they bring up the Fairness Doctrine too, when I watch the Sunday shows on ABC and NBC and the furthest right person on their panels would make a RHINO look like Reagan.

even better is hearing some say we can find out who voted for trumpand they are guilty to !!!

end goal of them just like any communist country

[TAZ]

The only way forward is to continue unfettered freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

Agee 100%. I will add the caveat that there is a difference between free speech and reporting the news as in what the press corps is supposed to do.

We no longer have an actual press corps. What we have is the expression of opinions shrouded as fact and disseminated by entertainers for the purpose of ratings. That is as far from a press corps as possible.

If you get press credentials you should be held to a higher standard when it comes to factual communications. Have at the op ed stuff all you want, but stop pretending you’re reporting the news.

The demand for change needs to come for the people. Turn off and tune out the opinion based sources and let them crumble. Support fact based sources and let them prosper. Not going to happen cause watching a hottie in a tight outfit reaffirm your beliefs is far more fun than someone reminding you your opinion has no factual merits.

[HackerF15E]

The demand for change needs to come for the people.

This. The core of the free market of ideas at work.

[Honu]

The only way forward is to continue unfettered freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

sadly both of those are not what they were and are limited in many ways now

the means to get them out is becoming less and less and some could land you in jail if you truly want to express them

[Averageman]

The only way forward is to continue unfettered freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

Agee 100%. I will add the caveat that there is a difference between free speech and reporting the news as in what the press corps is supposed to do.

We no longer have an actual press corps. What we have is the expression of opinions shrouded as fact and disseminated by entertainers for the purpose of ratings. That is as far from a press corps as possible.

If you get press credentials you should be held to a higher standard when it comes to factual communications. Have at the op ed stuff all you want, but stop pretending you’re reporting the news.

The demand for change needs to come for the people. Turn off and tune out the opinion based sources and let them crumble. Support fact based sources and let them prosper. Not going to happen cause watching a hottie in a tight outfit reaffirm your beliefs is far more fun than someone reminding you your opinion has no factual merits.

This. The core of the free market of ideas at work.

We've had an interesting week with that.
I doubt if some News Networks are going to change any time soon to appeal to free market pressures until the harm they have caused forever changes the political landscape.
So you've got a loose cannon on the deck until the economic pressures of a free market take effect? Creating havoc, spewing lies about people and events and perhaps in some cases ruining lives , shouldn't go on until advertising dollars are removed based on market pressures.
All Rights come with responsibilities, I see little penalty for weaponizing the MSM against certain ideas and political parties.
There has been a lot of bantering about Collusion, but here is the definition;
Definition of collusion
: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose acting in collusion with the enemy.

I'm not sure how difficult it might be for the FCC to prove that.

[glocktogo]

The only way forward is to continue unfettered freedom of the press and freedom of expression.

Do you think Trump and SH-S calling them out for fake news stories is "fettering" them?

Agee 100%. I will add the caveat that there is a difference between free speech and reporting the news as in what the press corps is supposed to do.

We no longer have an actual press corps. What we have is the expression of opinions shrouded as fact and disseminated by entertainers for the purpose of ratings. That is as far from a press corps as possible.

If you get press credentials you should be held to a higher standard when it comes to factual communications. Have at the op ed stuff all you want, but stop pretending you’re reporting the news.

The demand for change needs to come for the people. Turn off and tune out the opinion based sources and let them crumble. Support fact based sources and let them prosper. Not going to happen cause watching a hottie in a tight outfit reaffirm your beliefs is far more fun than someone reminding you your opinion has no factual merits.

This. So much this. Take the story du jour, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand's beef with Trump. Gillibrand calls for him to resign over allegation made before he was elected. Trump tweets:

"Lightweight Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, a total flunky for Chuck Schumer and someone who would come to my office 'begging' for campaign contributions not so long ago (and would do anything for them), is now in the ring fighting against Trump. Very disloyal to Bill & Crooked-USED!"

Now the majority of SH-S's press briefing today was spent listening to the WH press corps repeatedly press her again and again and again on how in the world could Trump's tweet not be interpreted as sexist slut-shaming and accusing Gillibrand of being a prostitute? The primary focus of the briefing was supposed to be about yesterday's terrorist attack, how he entered the country and what the executive branch proposes to address the issue, but ALL the usual suspects in the press corps wanted to do was somehow force SH-S to admit that Trump slut shamed Gillibrand. We have a terrorist attack in NYC yesterday and all the junior Senator from New York and the press want to do is pin a sexist label on the president.

So here are today's top headlines right now:

NBC: Democrats rally behind Gillibrand after Trump’s ‘sexist smear’
CBS: Alabama Race, followed by Trump gets into Twitter spat with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand over sexual misconduct allegations
ABC: Trump attacks Gillibrand, suggests she would 'do anything' for campaign contributions
CNN: 6 words got Trump in trouble today
MSNBC: Mika: Trump attacks women because he's intimidated
FOX: Police union fires back after New York terror suspect’s family lashes out about NYPD tactics

How can anyone in their right mind view this as anything but a concerted effort by a biased liberal media to produce propaganda for political purposes?

[grnamin]

It used to be that the first casualty of war was the truth. Nowadays, it's the first casualty of journalism.

[Bulletdog]

There has been a lot of bantering about Collusion, but here is the definition;
Definition of collusion
: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose acting in collusion with the enemy.

I'm not sure how difficult it might be for the FCC to prove that.

There is no "secret" agreement amongst the left or there media propaganda machine. These people are right out in the open discussing it, admitting it, celebrating it. Bernie came right out and said he was a socialist.

They aren't having secret collusion meetings about how to try to discredit Trump. Its open season and they are blatantly flaunting it.

[Averageman]

There is no "secret" agreement amongst the left or there media propaganda machine. These people are right out in the open discussing it, admitting it, celebrating it. Bernie came right out and said he was a socialist.

They aren't having secret collusion meetings about how to try to discredit Trump. Its open season and they are blatantly flaunting it.

Then essentially that should be all it takes to make a case for the FCC.
They didn't have a problem going after Stern, did they?
That may be apples and oranges, but they have power.