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    Quote Originally Posted by elephant View Post
    Truth is, one day in the future, owning guns will be a thing of the past. A few modern countries have been very successful at getting guns off the streets and out of peoples hands. Its only a matter of time before some liberal president, who is backed by a liberal house and senate go to such great lengths to challenge our 2nd Amendment rights. It will start with legislation much like NFA, FFA 1938, GCA 1968, FOPA, Brady Bill or FWAB. Those things have already happened, they are not going away except the FWAB which expired in 2004. But over the next 25 years, there will be more and more legislation passed to hinder you and I from purchasing most firearms and to redefine what we already own as illegal.

    The 2nd Amendment will be considered hateful, discriminative, patriotic - which will be a bad thing in those days. People who owns guns will be viewed as deranged, sociopaths, psychopaths and predators.

    How will they do this? Easy, sell back your entire collection for a fraction of the original price or loose your home and get thrown in prison for 20 years. Most people will comply when faced with that option. There are states that are fining people for miss pronouncing peoples gender.
    All of this is meaningless conjecture that is directly contradictory to current legislative trends.

    We had a liberal President, Senate and House for years. Nothing noteworthy happened except millions of people going out and buying as many guns as they could afford.

    At the moment we have a very real chance of national concealed carry reciprocity becoming law, something that could only be dreamed of 20 years ago.

    And your assertion is that, over the next two decades, we're going to completely change course and lose all the progress we've made?

    Right.

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    I though blankets were the weapon of mass destruction used against the native Americans.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I though blankets were the weapon of mass destruction used against the native Americans.
    No, it was the syphilis that was given to us from them. We have eradicated small pox........
    In no way do I make any money from anyone related to the firearms industry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by elephant View Post
    Truth is, one day in the future, owning guns will be a thing of the past. A few modern countries have been very successful at getting guns off the streets and out of peoples hands. Its only a matter of time before some liberal president, who is backed by a liberal house and senate go to such great lengths to challenge our 2nd Amendment rights. It will start with legislation much like NFA, FFA 1938, GCA 1968, FOPA, Brady Bill or FWAB. Those things have already happened, they are not going away except the FWAB which expired in 2004. But over the next 25 years, there will be more and more legislation passed to hinder you and I from purchasing most firearms and to redefine what we already own as illegal.

    The 2nd Amendment will be considered hateful, discriminative, patriotic - which will be a bad thing in those days. People who owns guns will be viewed as deranged, sociopaths, psychopaths and predators.

    How will they do this? Easy, sell back your entire collection for a fraction of the original price or loose your home and get thrown in prison for 20 years. Most people will comply when faced with that option. There are states that are fining people for miss pronouncing peoples gender.
    Elephant take this personally as your post is well meaning but....




    ...ooweee.....oh. Had to laugh.

    Seriously, when/IF they can pacify Chicago and Detroit and several other shitholes then I might worry.

    maybe.

    If such an event didn't touch off a Civil War at the very bare minimum they might pick up some dude with his "evil" AR heading to some land im the middle of nowhere and crucify him but the whole thesis of your enforcement is predicated on honest men's cuckery.

    A lot of kit would end up in PVC with Cosmoline.

    Its less frequent now but in the last 20 years when a WWII guy would die off they'd find a barrel of oil with a STG 44, MP40, Schmeisser, a bunch of lugers, and an occasional Thompson that he just put away and didnt put on paper or pay taxes on because "spoils of war" and "Eff the Man".

    I mean do you really, really think everybody is going to turn shit in? A few but not a whole country.

    Worse comes to worse they'll do like they used to do. Call a cop on some innocuous meet in person and gang up on him for his guns with bricks and bats or start making zip guns and home made stuff.

    Stupidly easy with 3D printers and or basic shop knowledge.

    Its a liberal pipe dream that only works in Europe and Asia where everyone trusts authority and used to be somewhat homogeneous.

    America is like the dysfunctional family that hates each other but outsiders aren't allowed to join in..

    Remember some of these countries didnt have the wheel until the 19th Century and think squirting water up your ass is a valid way to clean oneself after a bowel movement.

    Don't fall for it.
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    The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean jack shit! If it did, then why do we have the NFA, GCA or FFA? Why aren't we able to buy an SBR over the counter, why aren't be able to own a full auto machine guns, why cant we put vertical grips or stocks on pistols? $200 and waiting up to a year may seem like a compromise but that's what it is: a compromise. Sure we can buy guns today, but at what cost? Filling out government forms, having our drivers license copied and stapled to the form? Calling the Feds to get permission before a sale?

    Legislation and policy overrules your rights. In most courts today, you "waive" your rights to an appeal if you represent yourself, which means you forfeit your rights. You "waive" your rights if you plea guilty, you "waive" your rights in some cases if you plea no contest. So... I guess your 5th and 6th amendment couldn't help you here

    The intelligence community tracks web traffic from IP's, phone/ text logs, emails through private servers, pretty much spied on us without cause, er.. I mean "for the matter of national security"- so I guess your 4th amendment could help you with this either.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...cks/901017001/
    The ATF says this happened because of an error in the system? But 4000 people have since been put on some type of list or labeled "mentally unfit" to own a firearm. That could be anyone of us. Who gets to say weather you or I are mentally unfit? The FBI? The ATF? Some super secret think tank in Washington? No one knows but we know that somewhere there is a list and someone watches over that list and gets to add names to it. If your deemed mentally unfit to own a firearm and have one in your possession, now your a threat and a danger to society. Im sure they don't send some guy in a suit to your house to ask for the gun back. They most likely send a heavily armed task force to get that gun back- Remember Waco?

    You say "it cant happen" but I'm sure that's what other states said too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_California

    The 2nd Amendment really came through in California!


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    I feel you but....

    Laws only affect the law abiding.

    Don't worry about the guns going south of the border. Worry about the guns heading north. No shit UZIs, G3s, LeMats, etc

    There are people right now in the city you live that are hardened felons with partners and guns.

    They will likely always have a gun.

    When the IC shuts down Cook County and cleams it out, then I might worry.

    During the very height of the AWB, I had a G17, a Bushmaster, and an STG 58 with several mags and I was s poor college kid more interested in girls and beating Final Fantasy 8.

    Ain't skeered.

    And honestly, I'm not even into guns like I was. My collection is odd but modest.

    Nobody cares about my 6920 and my Glock.

    As for California they shouldn't have been a clearing house for college kids trying to escape the draft, shouldn't have let degenerates have monopoly to dictate morality, and shouldmt have let every Julio come across the boder and start illegally voting.

    Not my fault. Neither is New York.

    You are seeing social Balkanization of the States and when they ruin one state they carpetbag to another. Eventually people wont like it. Look at Montana and Oregon. They are openly hostile to Californians.

    But your paradigm is so overreaching as to be academically implausible.

    The closest we came to that being a reality was during Clinton's first term and it was not wholly successful.

    If anything I expect gun rights to expand because everyone else is getting to marry other dudes or turn into chicks so why not legalize suppressors? I firmly believe SBRs will be non NFA in 25 years or less. Full Auto wont but thats okay.

    Just because some "academics" are crying foul doesnt mean anybody is listening.

    The reality is that people like their toys. ARs are essentially toys. Its like saying you cant have a smartphone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    Let's not take it to far. A simple IQ test for voting and firearms ownership would reduce a lot of our problems.
    Given the commonly held belief that academia is overrun with liberals, how do you conclude that an IQ test would do any good? I do not think that politicians are mostly folks with low IQ's, either. The Weather Underground was mostly comprised of very intelligent folks, in terms of IQ.

    I'd much rather apply a requirement that one be gainfully employed, and paying taxes, or retired after a lifetime of being a productive citizen. How many "Joe six-pack" types who work construction or in factories do you think are anti-gun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by elephant View Post
    The 2nd Amendment doesn't mean jack shit! If it did, then why do we have the NFA, GCA or FFA?
    The second amendment doesn't mean everything, but it sure as hell doesn't mean nothing. Ask anyone in England what it's like to live without something like a second amendment.

    Nothing is perfect, if we all enjoyed ALL of the rights we were supposedly born with there wouldn't have been slavery, the draft, income taxes or a lot of other things. But if those rights didn't exist, to function at the very least as legal obstacles to government infringement we wouldn't have a damn thing at all. Right now I have a shit ton of ARs, FALs, HKs and AKs so I'm second amendmenting at about 80% or so.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    The second amendment doesn't mean everything, but it sure as hell doesn't mean nothing.

    Nothing is perfect, if we all enjoyed ALL of the rights we were supposedly born with there wouldn't have been slavery, the draft, income taxes or a lot of other things. But if those rights didn't exist, to function at the very least as legal obstacles to government infringement we wouldn't have a damn thing at all.
    Shall not be infringed sure means something to me.

    Ask someone in there 80s or 90s. My grand dad use to tell me about the days where there was NO federal income tax, no social security, no property taxes, no gun control what so ever, and the US had roads, schools, thriving economy, a military that killed Japan and Germany's ass and a lot of people were poor yet they owned there own home and could go to a university and graduate without debt.- What happened from that time to present day? There was actually a time in America where you or I could walk in to a gun store, buy a full auto short barrel Thompson machine gun with a 100 round drum magazine without signing any paperwork.- That is freedom! And why does that no exist today? Because of people like Al Capone, Legs Diamond and Lucky Luciano and a few people got mowed down over bootleg alcohol and the government freaked out and amended our rights.

    There wasn't slavery in this United States in 1492 when Christopher Columbus discovered this new world, there wasn't slavery in 1607 when Jamestown was established, there wasn't slavery when the Pilgrims and Puritans landed here in 1620, there wasn't slavery in 1675 when the Quakers landed. It wasn't until Great Britain laid claim to this land that slavery was introduced around 1681 and there was only 1.1% (2,376).

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    Quote Originally Posted by skywalkrNCSU View Post
    A lot of the gun laws on the books are racist in nature but the left won’t talk about repealing those. For example, in North Carolina you have to get a pistol permit to buy a handgun (unless you have a CHL) and that was purely implemented to prevent black people from being able to buy handguns.
    Exactly. Most gun control was implemented to prevent the poor/working class and minorities from owning firearms. The NC pistol purchase permit is pure unadulterated Jim Crow. The NC Sheriff’s Assiciation won’t budge on these permits because they want the revenue.
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