Doug Jones (D) wins Alabama senate race.

[Sry0fcr]

You may want to go back, ignore the revisionist history, and actually learn the truth for yourself... Honest Abe wasn't in it for the slaves, he was in it for the tariff revenue lost by the secession of the South.

If you truly believe that the North was morally right, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd love to sell you...

Regardless of your version of civil war history, the Confederacy was pretty explicit in their desire to keep other humans in bondage and subjugation.

[chuckman]

Regardless of your version of civil war history, the Confederacy was pretty explicit in their desire to keep other humans in bondage and subjugation.

Most people in the south didn't have slaves; most didn't know anyone who had slaves. But yes, the slaves were instrumental to the success of the south's economy. At the end of the day the south wanted to keep their economy running, and determine for themselves how to do it, with or without slaves.

It is true that Lincoln was largely ambivalent about slavery; he recognized it as a moral abomination, but was generally 'meh.' But he also knew the rest of the country would be screwed without the south's economy.

[chuckman]

Well, that was The Most Important Election Ever (trademarking the phrase). Until the next one. The media are using EVERY election as a benchmark, as an indictment against Trump and Co. When few of them really are.

[Renegade]

Good news is seat is open in 2020, not 2024.

Like the Witch From Delaware, just because you are very far to the right, does not mean you are better than a regular conservative.

[Renegade]

Well, that was The Most Important Election Ever (trademarking the phrase). Until the next one. The media are using EVERY election as a benchmark, as an indictment against Trump and Co. When few of them really are.

I know.

They seem to miss the fact Trump wanted Luther Strange, Not Roy Moore.

[lowprone]

Well, that was The Most Important Election Ever (trademarking the phrase). Until the next one. The media are using EVERY election as a benchmark, as an indictment against Trump and Co. When few of them really are.*************************************************************************
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YES !!!
The media learned many lessons after the 2016 Presidential elections and we just saw how they modified their message .

They will drumbeat the sexual accusations forever and there is a certain percentage of the populace that is unable to function
beyond their emotions.

[Waylander]

I know.

They seem to miss the fact Trump wanted Luther Strange, Not Roy Moore.

Which would be weird except that it isn't. Luther Strange was backed by Mitch McConnell and company and far outspent anyone else.

Go back to the special election primary and see how this thing evolved. Roy Moore only got 164k out of 423k votes with Strange in second at 139k and Mo Brooks, the grass roots conservative, in third at 83k. These were the three main players in a really ugly election.

In the primary runoff, Moore got 55% of the vote and Strange got 45%.

The problem with Strange was he was tainted after being appointed by Alabama governor Bentley who would be ousted because of a sexual scandal. Strange's second problem was he had the backing of establishment Republicans. So he lost Trump's base.

Mo Brooks' problem was before the Republican presidential primary, he publicly questioned the honesty and integrity of Clinton and Trump though he eventually supported Trump. On every radio and TV ad, Luther Strange's campaign relentlessly played a recording of Brooks' comments.

So Brooks lost Trump's base.

The 20k write-in votes from mostly Republican voters for a different candidate gave Doug Jones the election.

[RetroRevolver77]

Regardless of your version of civil war history, the Confederacy was pretty explicit in their desire to keep other humans in bondage and subjugation.

Yet the Democrat Party hasn't changed since then. They lost their slave plantation but now have the welfare plantation. Result is the same, poverty, people being subjugated and living without hope.

[glocktogo]

Yep. Republicans are pretty much retarded. At least Alabama Republican are. Look at who they nominated.

I've been saying that for years. Well, except for the "pretty much" part.

This is why you can't allow the Press tolay claims in the media that they seem unwilling to take to court.
Do you think anyone will continue to pursue Moore based on the allegations they brought forward to win this election, or will that die on the vine as they seek another win by doing this to the POTUS?
We need to get a handle on this stuff.

He's now yesterday's news and it will never be investigated. You only investigate winners.

Except your side will now completely ignore their own allegations, just because he lost. All they really cared bout was the victory too and you know it. Yeah, that's your moral high ground, rapidly sinking beneath your feet.

This, 100%.

Also remember that there is no penalty for making false accusations against a politician. Expect all 2018 elections to have multiple sex-harassment or assault allegations going all ways. It will fade into the noise by 2020 and then the real sex criminals will have free reign.

LBJ and Huey Long are spinning in their graves, with delight.

[skywalkrNCSU]

Except your side will now completely ignore their own allegations, just because he lost. All they really cared bout was the victory too and you know it. Yeah, that's your moral high ground, rapidly sinking beneath your feet.

Wait, what’s my side? The one that doesn’t think it’s a good idea to elect a child predator to the senate? Does that mean you are pro child predation? That’s a strange side to be on.