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    I Was Wrong: looking back at POTUS election

    Now that time has passed and emotions (slightly) cooled off, what were you wrong about in your predictions of this past election? Here's two things I was totally wrong on:

    I predicted a record high vote for third party. Given the choices from Dem/GOP I suspect people would turn out in higher numbers to vote 3d if for no other reason to make their displeasure at those choices known. At no time did I think a third party candidate would win or had any chance at winning, but I thought higher numbers this election would show third party viability which would bide well for the next elections and do forth. That did not happen

    Two, I thought there would be a record turn out of voters regardless, as it was as much a vote against HC or Trump as it for either of them. Yet, it seemed many simply stayed home.

    It just confirms to me how stupid people are, and supports the expression “In a democracy, people get the leaders they deserve.” - Joseph de Maistre.

    What did you predict that was totally off?
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    When he actually won, which I did not think he would, I predicted that after 8 years of Obama, the GOP would rally behind Trump and really stick it to the democrats and pass a sh**-load of legislation since they controlled both houses. I did not realize the magnitude of republicans that would be indistinguishable from the democrats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckman View Post
    I predicted that after 8 years of Obama, the GOP would rally behind Trump and really stick it to the democrats and pass a sh**-load of legislation since they controlled both houses. I did not realize the magnitude of republicans that would be indistinguishable from the democrats.
    I think many (most?) in the GOP dislike Trump only slightly less than the Dems do, so passive aggressive obstructionism will be the strategy from the GOP rit large. That's not coming as any surprise to me personally. It's what I pretty much expected.
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    I predicted a Hillary landslide (and geared up accordingly) because Trump was/is not a serious Candidate/President. I really didn't think that folks were ready to burn down/turn our backs on our institutions.
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    I thought Trump would win up until the Billy Bush recording, then I thought Hillary would win. Comey re-opening his investigation at the last minute and Hillary's fainting spells caused me to re-evaluate that. On election night I ended up thinking it would be closer than it was, but I was hopeful Trump would win all the areas Hillary was supposed to carry, like Wisconsin. I was right. Ultimately I let the size of Trump's rallies and the enthusiasm for him sway my thinking. I ended up cautiously optimistic Trump would win and I turned out to be right.

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    I thought there were two very different political parties with different goals .
    They are different sides of the same coin, nothing more.
    They care only for themselves and the powers that own them.
    Nowhere do's the populace enter into that equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    What did you predict that was totally off?
    I never predicted anything so I would say I can still offer that Hillary winning would have been really bad. I never knew what Trump might do or how things would go. Only that something new -could- happen. with Hillary there would be no choice of anything new.

    In fact, you know the Bitcoin thread? When you watch that Antonopolous guy.. He has a 2hr interview with some Brit. I just happened to be listening to part of it last night.... He was talking about Greece and it's decline, then he mentions Europe and how it's spreading then he says.... and I think we just had a bad election here..... Trump, but it would make no difference. Hillary / Trump same thing... everything is leading towards Totalitarianism.

    So if I'm wrong about something I suppose it would be that I chose plan B in the hopes of positive change and opposed to plan Hillary which I was certain would be no change. The reality being, and something else this guy mentions is that Bitcoin is a social thing that the people control. that is what we need in our government. I never really expected Trump would cure the discord but I did feel he might be willing to try.... and honestly I'm still torn on that. I think the media forces Trump to divide as they know that is how he alerts his base. I think that technique is ineffective now.

    It's a really tricky situation. If Trump tries to comply he will be hung by the Left. If he continues to bark back he will lose his base, which the Dems know, so every minute of every day they give him something to bark at.

    Honestly I don't know. I just had next to no expectations. I guess if I was wrong about something it was that I believed the Dems would quiet down and give Trump a try, but they have done just the opposite. They are clearly trying to break him and his family. Emotionally and financially.

    I guess I saw Trump as a stepping stone so I would be wrong in that. No way he will win 2020 at the current pace. Dems will win 2018 and 2020. NK will become a full out nuke power. the SCOTUS will get two Dem ultra Liberals and then it's pretty much no way back home. The bridge will be burned.

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    I thought Trump would win and then burn the globalist establishment to the ground. Through this election he exposed the elitists, leftist media and globalist traitors on both sides of the isle. What I did not see was just how embedded the establishment apparatus truly were. For instance our intelligence agencies from what I can see are near wholly corrupted with perhaps a few patriots that have to keep quiet. I still feel the military overall are patriots which perhaps is our only saving grace. It's really becoming apparent that the Republic will fail at some point by design, to simply bankrupt the nation through dependency social programs and likely be reborn as an entirely socialist nation. Anyway, I'm thankful he won because at least for now I feel the country might stand a chance to last a little longer.
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    I thought the election was going to be a toss up and it basically was. What I totally underestimated was the staying power of the media and the progressive's anger towards Trump and their continued full court press to make sure his presidency was going to be a wreck. They have been remarkably successful so far. It doesn't help that Republicans in congress also seem to have the same goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sry0fcr View Post
    I predicted a Hillary landslide (and geared up accordingly) because Trump was/is not a serious Candidate/President. I really didn't think that folks were ready to burn down/turn our backs on our institutions.
    Me, too. I didn't think Trump had a snowball's chance in hell to win.

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