I Was Wrong: looking back at POTUS election

[kerplode]

We had a choice between Shit Sandwich and Shit Soup. I figured Shit Soup would win handily, but I as wrong.
Then, I hoped Shit Sandwich wouldn't turn out to be a shit show, but again...Wrong.

In a couple years, we'll have another round of Election Theater and try to choose which end of the turd is less chunky; all the while knowing that the two ends are the same turd, shit rolls downhill, and nothing will change for those of us with a net worth of less than $10 billion.

Whatever...Short of lighting torches and busting out the guillotine, can't really do much about any of this anyway, so I'm not sure I care anymore. My plan is to go about my business, try to not get shot by the police, and enjoy ride to the bottom.

[austinN4]

............, , I predicted that after 8 years of Obama, the GOP would rally behind Trump and really stick it to the democrats and pass a sh**-load of legislation since they controlled both houses. I did not realize the magnitude of republicans that would be indistinguishable from the democrats.

Count me in on this also. Really disapointed. Still better than Hillary.

[glocktogo]

I have to first clarify that I engaged in a metric buttload of hyperbole and eye poking prior to the election. Internally, I believed it would all be sound and fury, signifying nothing.

I was not wrong.

[caporider]

I thought Trump would win and then burn the globalist establishment to the ground. Through this election he exposed the elitists, leftist media and globalist traitors on both sides of the isle. What I did not see was just how embedded the establishment apparatus truly were. For instance our intelligence agencies from what I can see are near wholly corrupted with perhaps a few patriots that have to keep quiet. I still feel the military overall are patriots which perhaps is our only saving grace. It's really becoming apparent that the Republic will fail at some point by design, to simply bankrupt the nation through dependency social programs and likely be reborn as an entirely socialist nation. Anyway, I'm thankful he won because at least for now I feel the country might stand a chance to last a little longer.

I see some striking parallels between the United States for which you're advocating above and the United States that existed in the mid 1920s. Insular, protected, disengaged from the world stage, with a huge number of young vets carrying with them the horrors of the first mechanized war in world history. There was no government safety net, very little regulation of anything (well, Prohibition being their equivalent of our War on Drugs), and a particular form of capitalism ran the economy.

That United States ended in 1929, and the next ten years were hell for millions of Americans.

Yeah, lots of nuances to be sure, but you can't say we don't have some sense for how a freewheeling, hands-off, disengaged United States might end up...

[Firefly]

I was actually right.
But was prepared to be wrong

[Diamondback]

I'll be honest.

I dislike and distrust Trump. I was one of #NeverTrump and fought tooth-and-nail to the bitter end in Cleveland, and somehow managed to keep my sanity and perspective while the rest of the movement went Full Metal Clinical Derangement (see the RedState Front Page for glaring examples) and morphed into what a wise man once referred to as "those who would rather see MacArthur lose a battle than America win the war."
I HATE the Rethuglican Establishment who do their damnedest to collude with the Dems and thwart anyone who dares defeat their Chosen Candidate in a primary.
I POSITIVELY F***ING HATE the Democratic Fascist Thugocrats.

That said, in terms of actual rubber-meets-road achievement, even if Trump is not an Ideological Conservative, he has so far not been the New York Leftist I feared, and he's put more points-on-the-board implementing conservative/small-government policy than both of his GOP predecessors combined.

Prediction: He will continue to "Dance With Those Who Brought Him" until the 2020 Election. If the worm is going to turn, the change-up will come when he no longer has any reason to fear the voters' reprisal. I don't know how I'm going to vote in '20. Might go Trump, will probably go 3rd Party again. (Don't blame me for that douchebag kapo Egg McMuffin, I voted for the stoner.)

[Doc Safari]

That said, in terms of actual rubber-meets-road achievement, even if Trump is not an Ideological Conservative, he has so far not been the New York Leftist I feared, and he's put more points-on-the-board implementing conservative/small-government policy than both of his GOP predecessors combined.

Prediction: He will continue to "Dance With Those Who Brought Him" until the 2020 Election. If the worm is going to turn, the change-up will come when he no longer has any reason to fear the voters' reprisal. I don't know how I'm going to vote in '20. Might go Trump, will probably go 3rd Party again. (Don't blame me for that douchebag kapo Egg McMuffin, I voted for the stoner.)

I actually think Trump is the embodiment of "if you're not liberal when you're young you have no heart/if you're not conservative when you're old you have no head."

I think Trump has changed his mind on a lot of "New York liberal" ideas he used to have--either because of his kids or just his getting older.

[flenna]

Now that time has passed and emotions (slightly) cooled off, what were you wrong about in your predictions of this past election? Here's two things I was totally wrong on:

I predicted a record high vote for third party. Given the choices from Dem/GOP I suspect people would turn out in higher numbers to vote 3d if for no other reason to make their displeasure at those choices known. At no time did I think a third party candidate would win or had any chance at winning, but I thought higher numbers this election would show third party viability which would bide well for the next elections and do forth. That did not happen

Two, I thought there would be a record turn out of voters regardless, as it was as much a vote against HC or Trump as it for either of them. Yet, it seemed many simply stayed home.

It just confirms to me how stupid people are, and supports the expression “In a democracy, people get the leaders they deserve.” - Joseph de Maistre.

What did you predict that was totally off?

Trump was the third party except he ran as a Republican, and won. Which is why I think the RINOs would have rather seen Hillary win than Trump.

[SeriousStudent]

I figured this election would make the threads in General Discussion even more angry, more bitter, and the personal attacks much more frequent.

Nailed it.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Trump was the third party except he ran as a Republican, and won. Which is why I think the RINOs would have rather seen Hillary win than Trump.

Oh, the deals that they could have made....

I never thought that Trump could win. Everytime I ran the calculator you'd have to run the table- and I thought if he did get close, that guy in Utah would screw it up.

I thought the Russia thing would have been further along than it is, I realize the congressional stuff will go forever. I thought the economy would not be as good as it is because people would be afraid of what might happen.

The US is headed in an awesome direction that people have no appreciation for because Trump can't keep his mouth out of the news. Now the tipping point is the tax deal. IF he doesn't get that the stock rally ends and has aftershocks and there isn't any more legislative agenda really after this till next years election and then he gets hobbled in 2018. If he gets the Tax plan and the Russia deal peters out like it looks then he is the master of his own fate- like Lenny with a rabbit.