Class setup..

[J-Dub]

So im signed up for a Pat Mac class next year (pretty stoked) and need to setup a back up belt/holster system. My primary rig will be my duty belt. My backup will be for my G23 w/ tlr.

Im thinking a double pistol mag and two rifle mag setup. Any suggestions for belts, holster, and mag holders?

[ggammell]

Is it a pistol/carbine combo or just one?

For classes I like to run a little as possible. Use my pants belt for dump pouch, to hold my hsgi subload and a holster if I need it. I follow the idea of learning and practicing being two different things. I go to learn in class with what will get me by in class. I go home and practice what I learned in the class with either my duty gear or something very similar.

I just did a Pat Mac class two weeks ago so I can probably answer some questions.

You’ll be in for a good time.

[J-Dub]

Two day pistol/rifle. Im looking for a simple belt (riggers?) and kydex holster/mag holders

[ggammell]

Two day pistol/rifle. Im looking for a simple belt (riggers?) and kydex holster/mag holders

Ive used an Ares Aegis belt as the pants+Gear belt for several classes. And it’s useful as my everyday belt. Pick your poison on mag carriers. I don’t see a need to build a war belt-esque setup unless you really want one. Get a dump pouch. Even a cheap one. It’ll help when you have to carry 1-2 extra mags to the line or store the empties. You can easily do two mags (of each pistol and rifle) on the belt while on the line with his program and not fall behind.

Pat runs the most big-boy rules range I’ve ever seen. Out of ammo, fine, clear your gun and go reload. Want to haul your ammo can down to the firing line? Cool.

[Wake27]

There was a Ronin belt with accessories posted on the EE earlier. If its your size, jump on that.

[ExplorinInTheWoods]

The AWS assaulter belt is an option, i've heard they make the belts for ronin but since they give you molle panels it's easier to mount pouches than it is on the ronin. I'm still in the past with my HSGI belt but I like it.

[RobertTheTexan]

Two day pistol/rifle. Im looking for a simple belt (riggers?) and kydex holster/mag holders

If you want super simple try TR Holsters.
http://trholsters.com/holsters/

They make the holster and pistol/rifle mag pouches.
I have a G19 and two double Glock mag pouches. Made from Kydex, tension adjustable and a darn good price. The quality is top notch also. You could wear these in a riggers belt or whatever belt you wear with your pants pants.

I used this setup until I set up a battle belt that works even better for me. (G-Code Operator belt)

But if you want simple - TR Holsters is it. Add a Tactical Tailor Dump Pouch and your gtg. Blue Force Gear also makes micro trauma that you can wear on your belt. If I had to do minimum, I would at minimum add a small ifak.





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[Eurodriver]

This is completely ****ing retarded. If you, or anyone, deals with this kind of **** **** games at the range, much less a paid training class, you're on a short list for a Darwin award.

Agreed

[Mr. Goodtimes]

Agreed

Double agreed. I love a good prank and I’ll screw with people all day, but one thing I never, ever, under any circumstance do is mess with someone’s life safety equipment and I expect the same. Do not f*ck with my gear.


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[specialk]

That kind of prank? That's a hard "no". That's childish and exposes a lack of competence in the instructor.

The closest I've gotten to that was at a .mil course. You and another guy would PT behind a wall, and on "go" you'd run around the wall to your shooting position. Your rifle would be there along with instructions for the course of fire. On some iterations it would be exactly as you left it so it was just a matter of completing the exercise faster than the other guy. Other times you'd find it in pieces so you'd have to reassemble, unloaded or loaded with some dummy rounds (so as to force you to tap-rack your way to success), batteries removed from the optics (so you switch to irons), or otherwise un-shootable so the mini rifle comp became a pistol comp. And on and on. Each iteration was an exercise in shooting and problem solving under self-induced stress (PT and trying to beat the other guy). It was fun and I think I got something out of it.

There's a time and a place for that sort of thing and randomly throughout the day as a "prank" is not it. Have we, in a training environment, added rocks to a guy's rucksack as a joke, replaced some of the rifle mags in his kit with big purple dildos when he wasn't looking, or given role players a new script to purposely mess with those not in the know? Sure, but you draw a line at safety stuff and changing someone's zero is a safety issue. Some guy was messing with my personal guns at a civilian course better be prepared to apologize or accompany me to the woodline.