New ammo from Tula?

[Kdubya]

Never thought I'd start a Tula thread, but here goes...

Has anyone else seen the new .223 they've released? It's still steel case, but they're loading "range friendly" non-steel projectiles. Generally, I don't shoot steel cased ammo. Not because of the case, but because of the bi-metal bullets. While the severity might be overstated, they do wear barrels faster.

They're priced just over $200 for 1,000 rounds. Even with the rock bottom prices on brass, that's a considerable savings for range/plinking ammo. Unfortunately, for a few reasons, Tula's pretty much seen as the worst ammo out there. Still, I might pick some up to see if they're worth a more serious look.

Just figured it was worth checking to see if anyone's had a chance to try them out.

[TomMcC]

I went to Tula's website, but all I saw was their promotion of their zinc line. The way they worded it, I wasn't sure if it was bi-metal but just using zinc instead of copper. Can you provided a link to the "range friendly" ammo? This would be a big deal here in Calif. No range that I'm aware of here in Calif allows bi-metal because of the possibility of fires. On a personal level, I stayed away from bi-metal, right or wrong, I didn't like the idea of steel in my barrel, plus I couldn't really shoot it anywhere except the desert.

[Kdubya]

Sorry. I'd done the same and didn't see it on their website. Although, it looked like they weren't too ambitious with timely site updates

Only place I've seen the ammo so far is LAX Ammo...

https://www.laxammo.com/tulammo-223-...jectile-detail

Like you, I've opted to stay away from ammo like Tula because I'm not keen on throwing steel projos down my barrels. Range restrictions where I live are not much of a concern. So, hopefully this helps my friends trapped behind enemy lines.

Let me know if you're able to find any more info.

[Kain]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

[TomMcC]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

Probably the only way to find out is to pulled down a few and measure the charge. I don't think I ever chrono'd any Tula. Were the velocities all over the place?

[Kdubya]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

That was my thought as well.

Probably the only way to find out is to pulled down a few and measure the charge. I don't think I ever chrono'd any Tula. Were the velocities all over the place?

I haven't shot any, but have seen many sources who indicate it's either inconsistently loaded and/or underpowered. The Lucky Gunner 10k torture test is a good example. The carbine(s) running Tula had all sorts of problems which they attributed, at least partially, to it being underpowered. Wolf and Brown bear did not exhibit the same issues.

[markm]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

Is this true? I've not examined TULA ammo. But the Herters stuff I disected had an impressively consistent powder charge. No sure if Herters is even remotely related to Tula (production plant wise), but the only thing that made the ammo bad was the bullet. Everything else about the steel case was good.

[Joe Mamma]

Now that I think about it, about 10-15 years ago, I bought several cases of polymer coated Wolf steel case 223 that had copper (no steel) bullets. They were in regular Wolf packaging and I was surprised about the non-magnetic bullets.

Joe Mamma

[Kain]

Is this true? I've not examined TULA ammo. But the Herters stuff I disected had an impressively consistent powder charge. No sure if Herters is even remotely related to Tula (production plant wise), but the only thing that made the ammo bad was the bullet. Everything else about the steel case was good.

Have not shot herters, had a bad go with hangfires with some of their other ammo. But, from the Tula I've shot, and honestly might break some down to see if i get bored, I'd shoot and I could 2-5 rounds a bix that lacked enough ass to cycle either of my BCMs or even my Bushy. The rest would cycle, but damn even Wolf I have less issue with than the Tula I've shot. The only Tula I've managed to run multiple boxes without a fail to feed or in sone cases fail to eject with a spent casing in my chamber was the 75gr stuff. I will caveat that the last Tula 55gr FMJ I shot was 3 years old as far as when I got it. Newer might be more consistent. But the issues I've had I still consider it junk.

[TomMcC]

Sorry. I'd done the same and didn't see it on their website. Although, it looked like they weren't too ambitious with timely site updates

Only place I've seen the ammo so far is LAX Ammo...

https://www.laxammo.com/tulammo-223-...jectile-detail

Like you, I've opted to stay away from ammo like Tula because I'm not keen on throwing steel projos down my barrels. Range restrictions where I live are not much of a concern. So, hopefully this helps my friends trapped behind enemy lines.

Let me know if you're able to find any more info.

There's a LAX ammo 15 mins from my house. I'll have to tool on over and check it out. The bullets in the picture don't look all that silvery, like on their website, indicating zinc. Maybe they went with a conventional guilding metal jacket. I might try some of this stuff in the really close range shooting at my next 3gun, accuracy isn't as critical. I'm going to a public range next week to fine tune my rifles out at 200 yds, so I think I'll shoot a few groups with this stuff as well.