New ammo from Tula?

[Kdubya]

Never thought I'd start a Tula thread, but here goes...

Has anyone else seen the new .223 they've released? It's still steel case, but they're loading "range friendly" non-steel projectiles. Generally, I don't shoot steel cased ammo. Not because of the case, but because of the bi-metal bullets. While the severity might be overstated, they do wear barrels faster.

They're priced just over $200 for 1,000 rounds. Even with the rock bottom prices on brass, that's a considerable savings for range/plinking ammo. Unfortunately, for a few reasons, Tula's pretty much seen as the worst ammo out there. Still, I might pick some up to see if they're worth a more serious look.

Just figured it was worth checking to see if anyone's had a chance to try them out.

[TomMcC]

I went to Tula's website, but all I saw was their promotion of their zinc line. The way they worded it, I wasn't sure if it was bi-metal but just using zinc instead of copper. Can you provided a link to the "range friendly" ammo? This would be a big deal here in Calif. No range that I'm aware of here in Calif allows bi-metal because of the possibility of fires. On a personal level, I stayed away from bi-metal, right or wrong, I didn't like the idea of steel in my barrel, plus I couldn't really shoot it anywhere except the desert.

[Kdubya]

Sorry. I'd done the same and didn't see it on their website. Although, it looked like they weren't too ambitious with timely site updates

Only place I've seen the ammo so far is LAX Ammo...

https://www.laxammo.com/tulammo-223-...jectile-detail

Like you, I've opted to stay away from ammo like Tula because I'm not keen on throwing steel projos down my barrels. Range restrictions where I live are not much of a concern. So, hopefully this helps my friends trapped behind enemy lines.

Let me know if you're able to find any more info.

[Kain]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

[TomMcC]

Sorry. I'd done the same and didn't see it on their website. Although, it looked like they weren't too ambitious with timely site updates

Only place I've seen the ammo so far is LAX Ammo...

https://www.laxammo.com/tulammo-223-...jectile-detail

Like you, I've opted to stay away from ammo like Tula because I'm not keen on throwing steel projos down my barrels. Range restrictions where I live are not much of a concern. So, hopefully this helps my friends trapped behind enemy lines.

Let me know if you're able to find any more info.

There's a LAX ammo 15 mins from my house. I'll have to tool on over and check it out. The bullets in the picture don't look all that silvery, like on their website, indicating zinc. Maybe they went with a conventional guilding metal jacket. I might try some of this stuff in the really close range shooting at my next 3gun, accuracy isn't as critical. I'm going to a public range next week to fine tune my rifles out at 200 yds, so I think I'll shoot a few groups with this stuff as well.

[TomMcC]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

Probably the only way to find out is to pulled down a few and measure the charge. I don't think I ever chrono'd any Tula. Were the velocities all over the place?

[Kdubya]

There's a LAX ammo 15 mins from my house. I'll have to tool on over and check it out. The bullets in the picture don't look all that silvery, like on their website, indicating zinc. Maybe they went with a conventional guilding metal jacket. I might try some of this stuff in the really close range shooting at my next 3gun, accuracy isn't as critical. I'm going to a public range next week to fine tune my rifles out at 200 yds, so I think I'll shoot a few groups with this stuff as well.

Hadn't even considered LAX was local to you. Double bonus potentially with those new ammo laws you guys have to deal with. I almost wonder if it'll be an exclusive for LAX/Tula. Kind of like the Walmart/Perfecta deal that once was.

Keep us posted if you try them out.

[Kdubya]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

That was my thought as well.

Probably the only way to find out is to pulled down a few and measure the charge. I don't think I ever chrono'd any Tula. Were the velocities all over the place?

I haven't shot any, but have seen many sources who indicate it's either inconsistently loaded and/or underpowered. The Lucky Gunner 10k torture test is a good example. The carbine(s) running Tula had all sorts of problems which they attributed, at least partially, to it being underpowered. Wolf and Brown bear did not exhibit the same issues.

[Kain]

I haven't shot any, but have seen many sources who indicate it's either inconsistently loaded and/or underpowered. The Lucky Gunner 10k torture test is a good example. The carbine(s) running Tula had all sorts of problems which they attributed, at least partially, to it being underpowered. Wolf and Brown bear did not exhibit the same issues.

Pretty much this. Usually slow and all over the place. I mean, I've shot some of thier stuff that was like 4 inch groups at 50 yards. When before and after I was throwing 1 inch, 1 and half inch groups with IMI M193
On a note though, I have had better luck with their 75 stuff, at least functionally, it seems to run to better. Whether that is because it is more consistent, which I doubt really, or because the heavier round is going slowing down my tube and getting more dwell time that helps run the action, I can't say for certain. It was still shitty as **** accuracy wise. I mean with the 75gr ammo they had I have had M855 that shot more accurately. Granted, haven't done a full burn of a lot of the stuff, but I don't even use it for getting on paper any more. If I end up with some it is close range drill shit when I'm hitting the range cold after a few weeks or more of not shooting.

[pinzgauer]

It's not Tula (Barnul?), but the Grendel steel case is a bit mild, but not excessively slow. And it's accuracy is very much limited by the projectile. Mexican match tests with decent bullets it did well. So it's projectile variance that makes it 2.5-3 MOA.