New ammo from Tula?

[Kain]

It's not Tula (Barnul?), but the Grendel steel case is a bit mild, but not excessively slow. And it's accuracy is very much limited by the projectile. Mexican match tests with decent bullets it did well. So it's projectile variance that makes it 2.5-3 MOA.

Agreed.
Just because something is steel cased ammo does not in and of itself mean it is shit accuracy. Because I hear that often, at which point I point to Hornady Steel match and some of the groups I have shot with that stuff. I have just found Tula to be shit though, yes, projos are shit and I would not be surprised if there was as much as a 5gr variation in their stuff, and Probably not that much off in their powder. in the 55gr stuff I have also heard the theory that the powder throw is the same as the 5.45 ammo, that the just chance casing and projectile when doing runs. I don't know.

Maybe I'll get really ambitious in the near future, grab some various tula loadings and break them down and weigh the projo and powder and see.

[mattieb]

I shoot about 8000 rounds of Tula or wolf 9mm mainly Tula 115 gr and it shoots 3 inch groups at 25 yards all day. I find it very consistent and with the money you save you can get a new barrel and another couple thousand rounds to shoot.
I have a couple training buddy’s who also do the same thing and we love the stuff.


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[TomMcC]

Hadn't even considered LAX was local to you. Double bonus potentially with those new ammo laws you guys have to deal with. I almost wonder if it'll be an exclusive for LAX/Tula. Kind of like the Walmart/Perfecta deal that once was.

Keep us posted if you try them out.

Will do.

[Kdubya]

I shoot about 8000 rounds of Tula or wolf 9mm mainly Tula 115 he and it shoots 3 inch groups at 25 yards all day. I find it very consistent and the money you save you can get a new barrel and another couple thousand rounds to shoot.
I have a couple trading buddy’s who also do the same thing and we love the stuff.

Upon further consideration, I actually have shot Tula. It was quite a while back and only in pistol calibers. FWIW, I don't recall any issues. Fed, fired and ejected just fine. Don't remember anything out of the ordinary accuraccy wise either. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean the same can be expected with their rifle caliber loadings.

Still, I'm interested in their new non-steel version. Spending $80-$100 less per case is a pretty significant savings. If it's reliable, I could deal with accuracy on the poorer end of the spectrum for basic range/plinking use.

[vicious_cb]

Nothing new. Wolf's been having the occasional run of copper jacketed ammo for some time now. I guess the Tula plant just pulled a "me too".

[Kdubya]

Nothing new. Wolf's been having the occasional run of copper jacketed ammo for some time now. I guess the Tula plant just pulled a "me too".

Interesting. I've seen that packaging before but never really bothered to look into them.

[TomMcC]

Nothing new. Wolf's been having the occasional run of copper jacketed ammo for some time now. I guess the Tula plant just pulled a "me too".

Interesting. I've pretty much stayed away from the Wolf steel case .223 because of the bi-metal, so I haven't kept up with all their line (I do shoot their Gold line). You would think that the copper jacket stuff would be the only thing they would send to Ca because you really can't shoot bi-metal anywhere except the desert.

[5.56 Bonded SP]

It's not new, been around for a while.

I always thought it was the powder they use that was harsher on the barrels than the projectile, but I might be wrong on that.


With that said, I've shot 25,000+ rounds of a combination of Wolf, Tula, Brown bear, and Golden Tiger as well as some other steel case stuff in 9mm 7.62x39 and 223... I've never had a problem with it, always goes bang.. It's just really dirty and not consistent/accurate.
Steel case ammo is all I shoot out of my glocks anymore, you can buy 1000 rounds for 150 bucks at sgammo.. It's stupid cheap, and it has never given me any problems in the calibers I mentioned.

[markm]

Does it comes with more powder in the case and in more consistent quantities than their normal 55gr craptastic ammo?

Is this true? I've not examined TULA ammo. But the Herters stuff I disected had an impressively consistent powder charge. No sure if Herters is even remotely related to Tula (production plant wise), but the only thing that made the ammo bad was the bullet. Everything else about the steel case was good.

[Joe Mamma]

Now that I think about it, about 10-15 years ago, I bought several cases of polymer coated Wolf steel case 223 that had copper (no steel) bullets. They were in regular Wolf packaging and I was surprised about the non-magnetic bullets.

Joe Mamma