Welcoming in 2018 with a focus on mythbusting AR15/.223 gun store BS

[Firefly]

Here's one from the other day. Glocks are cheap junk because they use plastic sights. If they use cheap sights you don't know what else they cheap out on

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My G34 had plastic sights for a while. I even won a few PPC matches with it years back

Not ideal but they work. Glock isn't "cheap", it does what it needs to do.

Lame import laws are the cause of a lot of wacky crap.

ETA: I was addressing your myth you heard. Not trying to give ya guff, Arik

[Arik]

My G34 had plastic sights for a while. I even won a few PPC matches with it years back

Not ideal but they work. Glock isn't "cheap", it does what it needs to do.

Lame import laws are the cause of a lot of wacky crap.

ETA: I was addressing your myth you heard. Not trying to give ya guff, Arik

I know what you're referring to. It's just funny the level of mental gymnastics people do to justify something. Years of actual use and testing never enters into the equation.

The other part of it, which I was too lazy to type, was that ...since the box is cheap plastic as well as the sights. Those two things means the gun is of unknown quality

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[Kain]

I know what you're referring to. It's just funny the level of mental gymnastics people do to justify something. Years of actual use and testing never enters into the equation.

The other part of it, which I was too lazy to type, was that ...since the box is cheap plastic as well as the sights. Those two things means the gun is of unknown quality

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You bring up a good point. There are a lot of people who will assume that because the packaging is cheap the product must be cheap. From what I heard IOR ran into this issue when they first started getting brought in.

[Arik]

You bring up a good point. There are a lot of people who will assume that because the packaging is cheap the product must be cheap. From what I heard IOR ran into this issue when they first started getting brought in.

I always tell my LGS that if it saves me a few bucks they can keep the box and I'll throw the gun in my lunch bag

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[Kain]

I always tell my LGS that if it saves me a few bucks they can keep the box and I'll throw the gun in my lunch bag

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Lol! They ever take you up on that one?

[Arik]

No! But it's worth a try!!

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[Firefly]

People would literally dismiss a Wilson Combat if it came in an old plastic Gobots lunch pail but would act like a Bersa was something the Lord made just for them if it came in a Tiffany box with monogramming.

Agree on IOR. Painfully overlooked glass. I used to have a dragunov reticle scope I got for a song and foolishly traded (mid 00s) but danged if that sucker wasn't clear. Like ACOG clear. IIRC they use Schott glass.

[GrumpyM4]

I wouldn't be too terribly hard on Stick, guys.

Much of this convo has to do with perspective. Stick has been fortunate enough to primarily associate or hear stuff from guys who are a bit more knowledgeable then most. Good for him (not sarcasm). Whereas I've known LE types that were competent, genuine gun guys as well as LE types that make the case for disarming law enforcement and issuing them slingshots because of how firearm incompetent they were.

Like I said in my last post in this thread, to be part of the first real expansion of the gun world into the internet was to be inundated with the type of bullshit that EuroDriver mentioned. In some cases, I haven't seen the examples given for many years and happily so. Most of that kind of gunshop commando crap is kept to the actual gunshops or a portion of shooting related sites that folks like us simply don't go to.

Stick clearly hasn't waded through the sheer volume of junk due to the company he keeps. Lucky him. The rest of us who have been through that though, have seen all of the listed bullshit, and WORSE. Some even from major manufacturers that are still producing to this day.

Everybody has their own view on the world and it's not worth getting butthurt about because we don't share the same perspective on things.

[Jermedic]

People would literally dismiss a Wilson Combat if it came in an old plastic Gobots lunch pail but would act like a Bersa was something the Lord made just for them if it came in a Tiffany box with monogramming.

Agree on IOR. Painfully overlooked glass. I used to have a dragunov reticle scope I got for a song and foolishly traded (mid 00s) but danged if that sucker wasn't clear. Like ACOG clear. IIRC they use Schott glass.

My wife shoots, but isn't super in to guns. You should have seen the look on her face when I brought home my Les Baer in the famous cardboard box lol. She thought it was crazy that her Sig came in a nice case and the pride of my colection came in a simple box

[Firefly]

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Whereas I've known LE types that were competent, genuine gun guys as well as LE types that make the case for disarming law enforcement and issuing them slingshots because of how firearm incompetent they were.

I have seen this firsthand.

"You only need a shotgun"

Okay well if I dont feel like tossing a volley of .32 pellets into a crowd can I get some slugs

"Slugs are too dangerous"

Why?

"Because of policy"

Well you write the policy

"No slugs because of [hearsay "case law" in bugtussle USA]"

But....

"Muh white shirt!"

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Dont get me started on "Glocks are too militaristic, now go head off Murdertown with your singlestack Smith .45 while I finish my coffee, forward chain e mails, and look important until shift change".