DNC, FusionGPS, Steele and finally the FBI.

[Whiskey_Bravo]

The fact that more and more evidence that the Clinton's were compromised by the Russians is coming to light means the Muller witch hunt will drop the "collusion" angle and move on to the "obstruction of justice". This so called investigation had nothing to do with finding the truth and all to do with damaging a sitting elected President. This is part of a soft coup in progress.

To me this is one of the only logical explanations. The fact that Mueller and team are investigating "collusion" based on a fake oppo research doc that paid an ex British spy to dig up dirt who in turn paid Russian nationals for dirt that was all paid for by Hillary and the DNC says it all. Over a year of investigations that have yielded no "collusion" based on a fake document, but lets keep digging maybe we can find something else or catch more people in technicalities. But lets not investigate the Clinton's and their Clinton foundation for receiving donations while at the same time approving uranium sales to the scary Russians.

[glocktogo]

Not overnight but how long do they need? It didn't start with Mueller right? And Mueller has been at it for what, a year now? Just wondering how far down the rabbit hole a "collusion" investigation goes that so far has only produced a process crime and funny business by a guy long before the campaign?

And yes, I would. These special counsels pretty much have carte blanche and a magical unlimtted budget. If they can't find what they are looking for in a year plus it's probably time to throw in the towel. Not start investigating decade old tax records and such that have nothing to do with the original reason for the special counsel. And I don't think Cognitive dissonance means exactly what you think it means.

I think it's important to point out that the Obama Administration began collecting intelligence on the Trump Campaign as early as July, 2016. Mueller wasn't appointed to investigate "Russian Meddling" on May 17, 2017. It's undeniable that DoJ and ODNI surveillance and collection efforts resulted in substantial information leaks to the press, 100% of which were damaging to the Trump transition team and fledgling administration. So the clock is really + 17 MONTHS and the compromised Mueller investigative team has had nearly 8 months. The results? Two 1001(g) guilty pleas by Flynn & Papadopolous, and indictments of Manafort and Gates for alleged crimes completely unrelated to the Trump Campaign, the 2016 election or so-called "Russian election meddling".

Now knowing all we know and seeing all we've seen regarding Obama Administration surveillance of Americans in general and politicians in particular, can anyone say with a straight face that IF there were a single shred of evidence that the Trump Campaign, Trump Administration or DJT himself "colluded" with Russia to compromise the 2016 elections, that we wouldn't have already seen it splashed across every liberal media outlet? Seventeen months and all they have are a fired Trump adviser lying to the FBI, a fired Trump campaign staffer lying to the FBI, and two fired Trump campaign staffers indicted for alleged crimes unrelated to Trump or the election.

I'd say it would be EXTREMELY generous to give Mueller until May 17, 2018 to either produce evidence sufficient to indict a USPERS for conspiracy to alter the 2016 election, or publicly announce that there isn't sufficient grounds to continue the investigation. Anything beyond that could only be construed as an attempt by U.S. Government officials to alter the outcome of the 2018 mid-term elections.

The never Trumpers need to put up or shut up, soon.

[sundance435]

Glenn Simpson, founder of Fusion GPS, which commissioned former British spy Christopher Steele to write the dossier, told Senate investigators in August that Steele indicated the FBI “had other intelligence about this matter from an internal Trump campaign source,” according an interview transcript released Tuesday.

According to Simpson, Steele was so concerned by the possibility that a presidential candidate might be “blackmailed” by Russia that he reached out to the FBI of his own accord to share what he knew was “a security issue.”

But according to Simpson, Steele cut off his contact with the bureau after the Times ran a story in the fall alleging that the Trump campaign was not under investigation. The former spy was concerned that “the FBI was being manipulated for political ends by the Trump people and that we didn't really understand what was going on.”

That's all mighty white of spy for another country to be so concerned with our election and federal investigative service. Seriously, I'm not a Trump apologist, but this Steele guy's excuses are as bad as everyone else's.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

I mean, do you think FBI investigations are done overnight? This just goes back to my original point that if this same thing was happening to President Hillary Clinton in an alternate universe you would not be responding this way. Just more cognitive dissonance.

The major difference is that the Clinton modus operendi is to deny and slow down investigations. You really can’t say that the Trump people have put up the brakes like the Clintons do.

The difference between Trump and Hillary in opposite situations is that the FBI would have cleared HRC by now.

Wars have been won and lost faster than this. The atom bomb developed. All in the background of intel services with electronic capabilities out the whaa-zoo.

[skywalkrNCSU]

The major difference is that the Clinton modus operendi is to deny and slow down investigations. You really can’t say that the Trump people have put up the brakes like the Clintons do.

The difference between Trump and Hillary in opposite situations is that the FBI would have cleared HRC by now.

Wars have been won and lost faster than this. The atom bomb developed. All in the background of intel services with electronic capabilities out the whaa-zoo.

What? Trump fired the guy in charge of the investigation, has discussed firing Mueller, has discussed firing Sessions for recusing himself, told the Republicans they need to take control of the investigation, and has discussed his power to pardon his family members, team, and even himself. He even tried to request back transition emails that Mueller legally obtained (even if Trump said otherwise).

None of that means he is guilty but to say he hasn’t tried to deny or slowdown the investigation is laughable.

[Doc Safari]

To think that NONE of this would have come to light if Hellary had won the election is absolutely frightenting.

We live in the shadow of a secret government--Deep State if you will--and people behind the scenes are so unbelievably corrupt that I don't see this being straightened out without massive and catastrophic personnel purges in government.

I'm thinking the only "quick" solution is to let the government shut down during a budget crisis and keep it shut down until major players simply have to look for employment elsewhere.

But then again, what happens to the rest of the country if this happens?

Sad, but you almost wish the US Marshals could just wholesale start arresting higher-ups in other agencies.

[FlyingHunter]

All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.

Benito Mussolini

[Averageman]

This didn't occur in a vacuum, it wasn't planned in a vacuum and it didn't start rolling on its own after Steel began "investigating".
This was likely done with backwards planning, These are the results we want, now how do we get there?
There is simply no possible way this took place without the FBI, DOJ and possibly the AG not colluding with the DNC and their Attorneys coming together.

Perhaps the person they are alluding to who "died" because of this was the low level worker at the DNC who died in a robbery on his way home from a bar?

[ScottsBad]

In the same vein, with the diehard Trump supporters, you can’t cry that this is all just some conspiracy witch hunt when you know damn well if Hillary was elected and the exact same thing came out but against her they would be calling for the gallows rather than saying this is some big conspiracy. People are blinded by politics.

As for this whole investigation, I doubt it will play out like those on the left hope but I think there is at least something there worth looking into. Just let Mueller finish his investigation and see what it turns up. If Trump and team did something illegal I hope it is found just like I would with any politician.

I think its delusional to believe that the corrupt MSM would treat Hillary the same way they have treated Trump. Let's face it, the press has done the Dims and Hillary's bidding. The best thing you can say about the press is that they are in collusion with the Democracks and far left. Now, that's collusion that needs to be investigated, along with Hillary's corrupt pay-to-play antics, corrupt Clinton Foundation, and Clinton Foundation Tax fraud.

That said, I am really disappointed in the FBI. I always assumed they were above political corruption and kept their house in order. I hope the corruption is only at the top, because I'm trying to maintain my respect for the rank-file Agents that keep our Country safe.

[Averageman]

Waco and Ruby Ridge ruined my faith that the Federal LEO's were beyond reproach.
The investigation in to Hillary's email, her server and the email Human was holding at home were a under reported, nonissue for the MSM.
There is no integrity, the relationship between Socialist Progressives, the Deep State, the DNC and the Media is evident everyday.