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    I can't believe that the brain trust against our failed immigration policies has so little imagination that they cannot step up and explain how this works against their fellow American Citizens.

    The resources your tax dollars pay for are finite as all resources are. You have paid for them, we have went into debt to a staggering degree paying for them and we need to fix that.
    Taking the above as truth the only logical answer to that situation is to;
    A) Shutdown immigration completely.
    B) Slow immigration down and take only the highest quality skilled immigrants who have a skill and an education level that will enhance the population already living here.
    The logic behind this is that Taxpayers have for generations built and paid for this Country. They have labored and struggled to achieve what we have. They have fought in many wars to bring or return freedom to people all over this world. You cannot therefore demand that what was paid for in treasure and blood be given without some close scrutiny to immigrants who will come here with their hands outstretched wanting even more.

    The World is not the United States and the United States is not the World.
    We as a nation have done so many good things for this World and have given so much to make the World a better place and yet there are still back water nations without public health resources, public educations or even clean water.
    We as United States Citizens have often paid for these improvements in other Countries only to find that these resources that we sent to them, our tax dollars, were squandered or stolen.
    We have tried so hard to improve the world that we have borrowed money that we cannot repay. Payments for that money will come due and it will be paid. Unfortunately those payments will come from the pockets of already over generous American Citizens in the name of tax dollars.
    If we agree that all resources are finite and if we agree that these payments of our National debt will come from the pockets of American Citizens, then this is true;
    A) Payments on finite resources means that you are giving your tax dollars to a failed system, or paying for an un or under educated immigrant to come here to the United States. Is that new Citizen capable of lightening or increasing your load?
    B) It means that your retirement, children's education and your personal financial security take a back seat to a failed immigration policy that only benefits someone who has yet to benefit our Nations current economic situation.

    This situation is not about race, it is about economic reality and what you bring to the table.
    Again, if we agree that all resources are finite then;
    A) It is irrelevant as to the level of your melanin in regards to the economic value you add to our society.
    B) The people we import, to educate and mentor should be allowed to stay and flourish as additions to our Citizenry.
    When going under the knife for surgery we all want the most talented Surgeon regardless of skin color, religion or ethnic background. We might however feel more comfortable if the Surgeon is a caring and dedicated citizen of the United States who looks upon us as a Brother.

    We as Conservatives have allowed the Socialists to confuse and alter the narrative of the situation of immigration. We cannot repair what we have paid to fix multiple times with poor or no results. We cannot bring people in to the fold who require generation, after generation to assimilate. We cannot throw more good money again and endlessly again at a problem that cannot be fixed.

    The situation is dire, but the answer is relatively simple, we need to be very, very selective as to who we allow in our Nations doors to become fellow citizens.

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    When I can walk into Red China, Brazil, or Orthodox Israel and lay down spokes without having to learn a new language, assimilate, be self sufficient and receive benefits/entitlements; then I will care about the poor little pygmies in New Guinea needing a place to stay.

    Otherwise, piss off. America is full.

    I gotta keep my lights on, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FromMyColdDeadHand View Post
    The problem is, to get to the ‘everythings free’ (college, food, shelter, healthcare), you have to tax the bejesus out of the middle and even lower classes. That is the only way to get enough money. You can bleed the top brackets only so much before they are literally dry. That is the thing that the Progressives never really talk about when they are talking about all the ‘free’ stuff.
    And I'd bet even if EVERYBODY were taxed at 100%, assuming some Utopian Perfect World where everybody works to best effort without thought of ROI, it STILL wouldn't pay for even a tenth of the Doucheocrats' envisioned orgy-of-tax-and-spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averageman View Post
    I can't believe that the brain trust against our failed immigration policies has so little imagination that they cannot step up and explain how this works against their fellow American Citizens.

    The resources your tax dollars pay for are finite as all resources are. You have paid for them, we have went into debt to a staggering degree paying for them and we need to fix that.

    I agree. Our Nation's resources are finite. One of the reasons we are in debt to a staggering degree is that WE allowed a system that caters to increasing the wealth of the richest at the expense of the majority. WE need to fix that problem. Immigration is one small part. The backlash against immigration is not coming from wealthy America, it is coming from the lower middle class. Corporate America could give an eff less about illegal immigration as long as they get to hire the cheapest labor possible. It is all about greed, plain and simple.

    Taking the above as truth the only logical answer to that situation is to;
    A) Shutdown immigration completely.
    B) Slow immigration down and take only the highest quality skilled immigrants who have a skill and an education level that will enhance the population already living here.

    I hate to say this because I know how it sounds, but you know every electrical engineer we allow into the US is one less American that will have a job as an electrical engineer. So if we allow more immigration for 'good jobs' we cut off more good jobs for Americans.

    For years we have been educated foreign born students to either take American jobs or compete with America's economy from their country of origin. Go to a college's advanced degree hooding ceremonies, look at the ratio of foreign to American students receiving advanced degrees in the sciences.


    The logic behind this is that Taxpayers have for generations built and paid for this Country. They have labored and struggled to achieve what we have. They have fought in many wars to bring or return freedom to people all over this world. You cannot therefore demand that what was paid for in treasure and blood be given without some close scrutiny to immigrants who will come here with their hands outstretched wanting even more.

    We as Conservatives have allowed the Socialists to confuse and alter the narrative of the situation of immigration. We cannot repair what we have paid to fix multiple times with poor or no results. We cannot bring people in to the fold who require generation, after generation to assimilate. We cannot throw more good money again and endlessly again at a problem that cannot be fixed.
    I believe that if any administration was adamant about solving the immigration problem they could have. This isn't just on what you call the socialists. We should have locked the border tight decades ago. We didn't. Ever wonder why both Democratic and Republican administrations have failed to do so for decades?

    As far as I'm concerned it is ridiculous to get worked up about immigration until the border is secured. If you go back and peruse any posts I've made about immigration you will see that the first solution I advocate is a secure border.

    President Trump had me on that until he started blathering about making Mexico pay for it.

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    There isn't any place in the United States which has raw sewage/human turds running down the open street as standard operating procedure.

    The worst US ghettos still have a higher standard of living than 90% of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diamondback View Post
    And I'd bet even if EVERYBODY were taxed at 100%, assuming some Utopian Perfect World where everybody works to best effort without thought of ROI, it STILL wouldn't pay for even a tenth of the Doucheocrats' envisioned orgy-of-tax-and-spend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    I believe that if any administration was adamant about solving the immigration problem they could have. This isn't just on what you call the socialists. We should have locked the border tight decades ago. We didn't. Ever wonder why both Democratic and Republican administrations have failed to do so for decades?

    As far as I'm concerned it is ridiculous to get worked up about immigration until the border is secured. If you go back and peruse any posts I've made about immigration you will see that the first solution I advocate is a secure border.

    President Trump had me on that until he started blathering about making Mexico pay for it.

    Neither party really cares since immigrants are largely government dependent and vote for more government. The pyramid scheme might last a couple decades at best until things start really coming apart. We currently have 165 million people collecting some type of government benefit which includes 57 million on Medicaid with 46 million on Foodstamps meaning that the majority- 62% of 165 million on benefits are now collecting more than they actually paid into the system. Which could also arguably include government employees who are a net loss. Figure with the 57 million on Medicaid, 46 million on Food Stamps, along with other social programs and you have 165 million people collecting some type of government benefit out of a total of 327 million people. That's over half the population at 50.4%. Unfunded future liabilities, just what they owe the people right now that actually did pay into the system- is now over $111 trillion and climbing. Yet in reality of that $111 trillion in unfunded liabilities, using the 38% of the non Welfare based numbers from the 165 million currently collecting reflects the actual unfunded liabilities is closer to $292 trillion dollars. Even if you generously overlap the Welfare and Medicaid then add back in the current 23 million government employees, that number would still stand at $213 trillion in total unfunded liabilities. Right now just since we left the gold standard, the dollar has fallen to a ratio of 75.43 to 1- essentially worth 75 times less than it was when the dollar was still using the gold standard. The politicians already know what is happening, they're just in it to get as much out of the system for themselves as they can before it comes crashing down. Short of a massive reduction in our population- we are screwed.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/


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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    There isn't any place in the United States which has raw sewage/human turds running down the open street as standard operating procedure.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/12001...s-hank-berrien
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7n6 View Post
    Neither party really cares since immigrants are largely government dependent and vote for more government.

    I'm from Kansas, home of Herr Kobach. Your going to have to prove to me, better than that silly sonofagun has, that illegal immigrants voting have swayed any election. I'm not saying none have voted, I'm saying that they haven't impacted elections. I'm more concerned with dead folks who continue to vote. I do not know how many millions that silly sonofagun has spent trying to catch illegal voters, all he's turned up so far are a few elderly fellow Republicans.

    The pyramid scheme might last a couple decades at best until things start really coming apart.

    Yep, the pyramid scheme you are talking about and the pyramid scheme that is our stock market.

    We currently have 165 million people collecting some type of government benefit which includes 57 million on Medicaid with 46 million on Foodstamps meaning that the majority- 62% of 165 million on benefits are now collecting more than they actually paid into the system. Which could also arguably include government employees who are a net loss. Figure with the 57 million on Medicaid, 46 million on Food Stamps, along with other social programs and you have 165 million people collecting some type of government benefit out of a total of 327 million people.
    That's over half the population at 50.4%.

    Are you sure your figures don't double count anyone? I'm sure that many people on medicaid are also receiving SNAP benefits.

    Unfunded future liabilities, just what they owe the people right now that actually did pay into the system- is now over $111 trillion and climbing. Yet in reality of that $111 trillion in unfunded liabilities, using the 38% of the non Welfare based numbers from the 165 million currently collecting reflects the actual unfunded liabilities is closer to $292 trillion dollars. Even if you generously overlap the Welfare and Medicaid then add back in the current 23 million government employees, that number would still stand at $213 trillion in total unfunded liabilities. Right now just since we left the gold standard, the dollar has fallen to a ratio of 75.43 to 1- essentially worth 75 times less than it was when the dollar was still using the gold standard. The politicians already know what is happening, they're just in it to get as much out of the system for themselves as they can before it comes crashing down. Short of a massive reduction in our population- we are screwed.

    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

    7n6
    We seem to agree that it probably won't implode in our lifetimes (well, at least my lifetime as IDK how old you are). I'm worried about kids, grandkids, and my yet to be born, great grandkids.

    Are you ruling out enforcing or finding efficiencies in the system, or economic stimulus that creates new jobs?

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    The most astonishing thing about all of this is that it is STILL national news. I'm amazed that anyone is surprised that Trump might say something like this, I'm stunned that anyone is presuming to be offended by something 99.999% of the population has at least "thought" and that includes people who come from ****hole countries.

    Those people are leaving Haiti, South America and parts of Africa for a reason. They aren't coming here to bring their advanced technology, superior standard of living or greater level of humanity to our shores. They are fleeing the crapholes they leave behind and honestly I can respect that kind of thinking. Just don't get offended when someone points out that the shitty country you FLED is shitty.

    I left South Florida because the SUCKS vs. COOL ratio was too skewed for me to remain. If somebody points out the South Florida has a unreasonably high hillbilly / retarded redneck / heroin addicted loser contingent of the population I'm not going to get indignant and start listing all the good things about South Florida.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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