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    To quote a book of fables I read to my son tonight- "It is easy to dislike what you cannot have".

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    I think it is a product of the class warfare that is being perpetuated daily in America now. Everybody wants to be the man.. but they don't want to put in the work to be the man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKDoug View Post
    I think it is a product of the class warfare that is being perpetuated daily in America now. Everybody wants to be the man.. but they don't want to put in the work to be the man.
    And there it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    Worst thing is being the most qualified person in a room full of people you work for. Just drives me nuts, I can handle being the "idea guy" now and then, but when I'm flat out smarter and more qualified to do the job of the person I work for I feel nothing but resentment. Ideally my "boss" should not only be better at my job than I am, but they should do their job so well that every day I learn something new just by being around them.
    I dont know your situation, so im jumping off your point, not necessarily disagreeing with you.

    A boss doesnt need to know more or be better at your job than you, he just needs to be able to direct your skills in the proper direction to support company goals. That said, a good boss will push you to grow your talent and skill set. I can think of situations where the boss SHOULD be better at your job, but its an exception IMO. They just need to have an understanding to know when your doing a good job. My 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    You show me an accomplished man and I'll show you someone who has lost sleep, lost friends (in more ways than one), heave wept into his hands, bled, been screwed over, made hard decisions, and suffered.

    None of these other people can handle it, thus they hate. Lowering the bar is a lot easier than putting in the effort

    It seems cliche but:


    Rudyard Kipling--If

    If you can keep your head when all about you***

    *** Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,***

    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

    *** But make allowance for their doubting too;***

    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

    *** Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,

    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,

    *** And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:


    If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;***

    *** If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;***

    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster

    *** And treat those two impostors just the same;***

    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken

    *** Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,

    *** And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:


    If you can make one heap of all your winnings

    *** And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

    And lose, and start again at your beginnings

    *** And never breathe a word about your loss;

    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

    *** To serve your turn long after they are gone,***

    And so hold on when there is nothing in you

    *** Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’


    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,***

    *** Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,

    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,

    *** If all men count with you, but none too much;

    If you can fill the unforgiving minute

    *** With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,***

    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,***

    *** And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!




    That is no longer taught in schools.

    It's up there with the "fair share" crap.

    Screw 'em.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    I dont know your situation, so im jumping off your point, not necessarily disagreeing with you.

    A boss doesnt need to know more or be better at your job than you, he just needs to be able to direct your skills in the proper direction to support company goals. That said, a good boss will push you to grow your talent and skill set. I can think of situations where the boss SHOULD be better at your job, but its an exception IMO. They just need to have an understanding to know when your doing a good job. My 2 cents.
    This is something so many small business owners can't figure out. I own a small business. Through my leadership, and my wife's, we have quadrupled the size of our business in 17 years. Nice, long, sustained growth. We've had one down year in all those years and it wasn't that traumatic. Notice I said "leadership". We would not be where we are today without seeing qualities in people that I needed to round out my own short comings and hiring them. That didn't happen over night, but when I figured it out 10 years ago our lives became much easier.

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    It just seems odd.

    In one environment just a few years ago these were good, solid guys.

    Now, in a highly accomplished one percenter earner civilian environment, they must be “assholes” or “only good on paper.”

    People are not ashamed to get their sex change, collect welfare, etc. but can’t ‘fess up someone is a better man than them?

    I understand being resentful of the dimwitted jackass that inherited millions in a trust fund and lazily goes about life earning or accomplishing nothing. But even if someone is born with potential, say Arnold, he did not become a champion body builder with out tons of hard work.

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    OK, I'm confused are you saying that these individuals are people you know who were rock solid guys when you knew them in a different career field, who are now displaying jealousy of others in their new career field?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramairthree View Post
    It just seems odd.

    In one environment just a few years ago these were good, solid guys.

    Now, in a highly accomplished one percenter earner civilian environment, they must be “assholes” or “only good on paper.”

    People are not ashamed to get their sex change, collect welfare, etc. but can’t ‘fess up someone is a better man than them?

    I understand being resentful of the dimwitted jackass that inherited millions in a trust fund and lazily goes about life earning or accomplishing nothing. But even if someone is born with potential, say Arnold, he did not become a champion body builder with out tons of hard work.
    Maybe you are simply a Lifer awash in a sea of normies.

    Most people are lazy and not worth a shit.

    My counter ultimately is why do you care?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MegademiC View Post
    I dont know your situation, so im jumping off your point, not necessarily disagreeing with you.

    A boss doesnt need to know more or be better at your job than you, he just needs to be able to direct your skills in the proper direction to support company goals. That said, a good boss will push you to grow your talent and skill set. I can think of situations where the boss SHOULD be better at your job, but its an exception IMO. They just need to have an understanding to know when your doing a good job. My 2 cents.
    I guess where I was going is if I can do my job better than he can AND I can also do HIS job better than he can, then why the hell is he my boss? Is it because he's been here longer and still isn't as talented as me? I know the answer of course is usually who you know and what you know about them, but it still annoys me.
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